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Hello,

My name is jeff. I found this place via earthbagbuilding.com. Owen posted a blog about the eco community heaven is creating in Argentina. I am an imaginative permaculture designer and earthbag builder, so I thought I would check this place out to see if we fit. I look forward to exploring!

peace and blessings

Aloha from Argentina,

Aloha from Argentina, Jeff.

Thank you for finding this place and writing. There is lots to explore here. Dive deep.

Argentina is an ideal land to create a radical shift in how homes are built and how we live as a society. Once out of the city, building codes dissolve and one is free to design and build to heart's content. Here in the sierras land is abundant. I'd love to see some of your designs or hear more about your story.

My feeling is that the small community or village lifestyle we are aiming for is a whole lot more interesting when the community is multi-cultural. Connect that multi-cultural community to a global network of self-sufficient, yet inter-connected communities through which energy, ideas and people flow, and things get a more interesting. We could very well be creating a new Earth. Essentially we're building on the foundation started by the eco-village and sustainable community movement. Our addition is the inter-connectedness.

Who would want to join and commit their lives to a single isolated community when the option of joining a global network of communities is available? By joining a network, what one contributes at community A in Argentina, has equal value at community B in Romania and so that one has the freedom to explore and move within the network without having to start anew.

What about possessions? Could we say that land is never owned by any individual? Instead land is placed under care of a trust and is stewarded by members of the global community. We could carry over the concept of non-possession with other resources too.

Oceans of Love,
Santhan

Aloha Santhan, Your

Aloha Santhan,

Your ideas about community intrigue me. This openness leads to firsthand knowledge sharing. I know of an organization of ecovillages, but I believe your idea takes it a step further, which I like.
I agree, we are but caretakers, and all things just borrowed for a time. It is our task to steward this gift, of water, earth, and life. On a higher level, the various ecovillages throughout the world contribute to the global network of human minds collectively manifesting more harmonious relationships amongst people and the greater planetary organism.

We live in cycles, creating habitats to host reciprocal relationships with plants and animals, Permaculture design guides us to care for the Earth and all beings who dwell on her, and return the surpluses to the system. Using basic principles, we can begin to evolve our habitats to become synchronistic with the evolving energy grid. Vibrating on this higher frequency we can connect, and teach one way of peace. That is the goal.
We create abundance, within the cycles of nature, relinquishing control to let Earth and Spirit guide our designs and actions. I study and practice simple in-tune technologies that use locally abundant materials to create healthy habitat and energy.

Waste Veggie Oil, Alcohol, and methane gas produced from food scraps as power sources, depending upon region and climate. Photovoltaics and other passive uses of the suns abundant energies. Homes made of Mud. Water Filtration and biodynamic food productions. The Solutions are present. We mimic nature to create systems without waste, that can perpetually store greater amounts of energy with the passage of time.

I know the Earthbag technique well. Through teaching I spread the knowledge about this versatile building method. http://earthbagbuilding.com/projects/jtree.htm and also http://earthbagbuilding.com/projects/kentucky.htm . I recently led an Earthbag Dome Building workshop in Jamaica. It thrills me to find a place and let it's essence guide the materials and design of the structure. Each home, a unique entity, is like a puzzle to solve, in terms of design and material. It liberates one to build with local material, . Living with nature, in curves and hills, opens up energy channels in us. Round Earthen structures feel mystical bringing out the divine.

My small family of Amber, Terra, and myself are living the life nomadic. Terra has been with us for a whole rotation around the sun. It is such a joy to tune in to her, and focus on all she has to teach us. We are in transition now, searching for the perfect fit, where we can bring our design ideas to fruition and spread some deep roots. We have several ideas for rain catchment on domes and waterproofing. I am open, and look forward to being a true white blood cell for this wonderful planet that we all share.

I know you are thinking of building with Earthbags, so I am available to you as a source of answers for any questions you may have about the building technique. Feel free to email earthjeffone at gmail.com or call at 352.219.6853 . This offer is open to anyone wishing to learn more about Earthbag building and earthships at any level of the process. I love teaching and sharing my knowledge.

peace and blessings,

Jeff

The JTree project is

The JTree project is beautiful! The one in Kentucky also looks like it is taking shape nicely. I'm keen to see what they both look like finished, plastered and furnished. My hands are itching to get involved in building something!

Congratulations to you and Amber on receiving the gift of Terra's presence! What a name. I once had an opportunity to live with one who had just began to walk. I remember her staring into my eyes. Smiling she took a deep breath and sighed. In that small moment, I knew the world was well.

I'm a nomad myself. I think we all are. By nature we want to explore the world we live in. That's one of the reasons why a global network of communities is so attractive. It supports our natural curiosity and provides us with the freedom of movement without risk, to explore the world. This would be especially attractive to those of us who have formed partnerships and families.

You are very generous Jeff. I've already got several questions brewing in mind, based on the photos from the above links. The other day, I got out of bed with a design for a earthbag home in my head. I'll have to draw it! It's for Gloria's home, which I believe will be built here around Capilla del Monte.

I'll make a note here of some questions...

- why 8 percent cement in the mix?
- why are the lower tubes black? Is that some kind of treatment?
- 3months! I was planning on 1 month. Does it really take that long? I'm in no hurry and relatively speaking, 3 months is not a long time to build a home. Do you have any figures to help me understand the use of time? How long does it take to fill a bag? 20min is too long. 10 min is too long. Surely we can get a bag filled and closed in 2 min using some type of gravity feed loader (he wonders naively) ?

Feedlot bags used for storing grain are available here. I'm sure we could get the same manufacturer to spin out longer tubes if there is a greater advantage to using tubes instead of bags. Bags seem more versatile. What's your experience?

Welcome to the community here. Thanks for joining.

One Love,
Santhan

Earthbag Building answers

why 8 percent cement in the mix? This structure was a code approved house in California. I know the earth was of good enough quality to build without the cement, but the codes required it of us. Cement is really awful in it's production, and I only use it as a last resort. The 8 % portland cement theoretically stabilizes the soil, but with a soil with a high clay content, the cement actually fights with clay for the moisture, creating a crumbly mix. The cement also inhibits the walls ability to breath. Do you know how to test the soil you have to work with?

- why are the lower tubes black? Is that some kind of treatment? The lower tubes were painted with asphault emulsion to water proof below grade. I would NOT recommend this technique for your climate. Asphault emulsion is also Nasty and Toxic, I do not like using it. If a vapor barrier is necessary, I recommend using 6 or 10 mil polyethylene plastic sheeting ( i've attached a picture detailing this). It comes in large rolls usually. Good site drainage is key to the success of the building.

- 3months! I was planning on 1 month. Does it really take that long? I'm in no hurry and relatively speaking, 3 months is not a long time to build a home. Do you have any figures to help me understand the use of time? How long does it take to fill a bag? 20min is too long. 10 min is too long. Surely we can get a bag filled and closed in 2 min using some type of gravity feed loader (he wonders naively) ? Don't be alarmed. There are many things that can shorten the time of the build. This was a very complex structure! We tied together 9 domes and created eyebrows with the bags. The heavy machinery caused havoc on the site. The owner and project leader was not present through the earth moving, and the site was really destroyed and layed out improperly. It is VERY important to have a site plan, with detailed maps of where the soil piles will be, and how you will move around the site. It can save you weeks of work! Heavy machines can wreak havoc on systems that can take decades to recover. It is very hard to be gentle with these machines, but they do make the Earth moving stage go much quicker, that is unless you have a community helping you out. I could give you a better estimate if I knew the size and scope of the structure you are building. Also, bag filling is only part of the building process. I find that laying out the barbed wire and tamping can consume more time and energy than filling the bags. With a good team going in a circle, it is really amazing how quickly you can move!

Feedlot bags used for storing grain are available here. I'm sure we could get the same manufacturer to spin out longer tubes if there is a greater advantage to using tubes instead of bags. Bags seem more versatile. What's your experience? I have used both. The bags are better for smaller crews or if you are working solo. They can be cheaper b/c you can often find used bags or misprinted bags. The tubes are more efficient and quick once you get the technique down. The tubes are less wasteful and feel stronger.

Some questions for you ?

Have you ever built a home before?
Is it sloped?
How much rain falls there?
Is it located in a seismic area?
How are the seasons? What are the average temperatures?
Is there any solar access to the building site?
How big are you building?
Will you use heavy machinery?
Is it in a flood zone?
What is the soil composed of? sand/clay/silt ratios
How many people are going to help you build?
Have you spent a whole year observing the building site?

Two really good books on the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/Earthbag-Building-Tricks-Techniques-Natural/dp/086...

http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Sandbag-Shelter-Eco-Village-Manual/dp/18...

Also earthbagbuilding.com is a sea of information, that I go to often.

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Replies to Jeff - EarthOne

Have you ever built a home before?
Nope, I've never built a dwelling. I'm eager to begin.

Is it sloped?
Both. Often land has flat areas and slopes. Sloped land has the advantage of being cheaper.

How much rain falls there?
The winter is dry. Summer is wet (rains 3-4 times a week in mid-summer), but the land quickly drinks up the water. There is very good natural drainage here. However, I would not count on our past weather patterns. Someone told me that Iowa is going to be tropical in the near future.

Is it located in a seismic area?
No seismic activity worth mentioning.

How are the seasons? What are the average temperatures?
In winter the temperature can go below zero. This year I arrived here at the end of winter and there were days where it was uncomfortable indoors without heating. My feeling is that a well insulated house with a passive solar heating setup would be adequate to get through winter. Last night I visited a friend who built her own house out of cob and she has north facing windows. She said that in winter the sun keeps her house warm through most of the day. This last winter there was 1 day when it snowed for a few minutes. Summers are usually very hot with the temperature sometimes reaching 40C.

Is there any solar access to the building site?
Solar access? Do you mean electricity in the form of solar power or do you mean sunshine. The sites that I have looked at all receive good sunlight throughout the day and all accessible via some form of road. Most did not have electricity.

How big are you building?
We don't have building plans. The idea is to stay small. I imagine 3 sizes. Singles, couples and families. All of them using minimal space. Communal areas will be much bigger. But as far as the first satellite base camp is concerned, we are looking at smaller dwellings. 5-6m/15-20ft diameter dooms with an attached smaller dome for bathroom and a half loft for bedroom.

Will you use heavy machinery?
No heavy machinery unless absolutely necessary for moving things to the site. I'm all for generator powered pneumatic and electric equipment for speeding things up. I would love for us to have a small flow battery charged by panels, wind and water, as the central energy storage bank.

Is it in a flood zone?
It's not a flood zone

What is the soil composed of? sand/clay/silt ratios
I don't have soil ratios. The sand is dry and grainy in some parts and a mixture of rich loamy soil with pockets of grainy sand. There are lots of rocks. The site that we favor has year round water supply, rich dark soil after you dig a little, large areas of flat land and a huge section with a slope that has a flat area on top (and an amazing view of Uritorco). There are also pockets of more clay type earth and sections of grainy river type sand. The friend who built her house with cob, said the earth on her land was the perfect ratio for cob. I went around her entire house testing the walls (un-plastered). They are rock solid and sturdy. There is an abundance of cactus here, the juice of which is used in the cob mix. So the cob mix is fairly water proof without plaster. Her walls are in perfect condition, un-plastered after 4 summers. I remember reading about doing a soil test with water in a glass jar. I'll have a go at that.

How many people are going to help you build?
I don't know how many people will help to build. I know a few people who I would hire to work on the project. Our work team would be a group of volunteers and reliable hired help. The thought I have is that the building process would take the shape of workshops, where we would get a professional or someone with good experience like yourself to teach while building. That would be a win win situation for everyone.

Have you spent a whole year observing the building site?
mmm, no. I have spent very little time at the actual site mainly because technically we don't have the site...yet.

To sum up, there is a quiet sense or feeling I have within that everything is taken care of. When I look at the land, I clearly see how things will take shape. From the soil to the resources to the people. The vision is there. It's only a matter of time before it all comes together.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to the questions Jeff.

I'll definitely look for opportunities to volunteer on a earth-bag building project and meanwhile go through all these resources you've shared.

One Love

Owen Geiger

Owen Geiger http://naturalbuildingblog.com/ revisited this post on his blog this morning. And what an entry it is!

I got so excited about earthbag homes and CoummiTree all over again. It means so much to me that I just had to write a blog on it today. It's entitled Open Letter to Owen Geiger. What a resource Owen is.

Here's the link: http://godwriting.org/an_open_letter_to_owen_geiger.html

How I would love to see your comments!