Woven in Many Hues

God said:

There is not one thread of life that is not connected to another. Not one. All is interconnected. A thread is woven and unseen. It may take a year or ten or a thousand before that thread is seen again. There are no dropped stitches in life. A seed planted years ago will sprout and spread new seeds of itself. A remarkable quilt is being woven, ever continuing, never-ending.

There is not one call that is not answered. There are many calls that have been answered and the answer unheard and the answer unseen. A callback will crop up again in one way or another until the weaving is seen and so progress is made.

There is not one connection that is left unconnected.

All threads are picked up.

Once noted, the thread can be knotted. That thread can reach its conclusion. The quilt it is a part of continues. New threads are started, and new connections are made, yet the old ones remain with the quilt. Their presence is there, yet that thread is done. It keeps to itself now. It lies in the snow, content to lie there. It has served its purpose.

The jaws of life finish with many threads. They are bitten off, and a knot is tied. This happens many times.

Although you may be old, your childhood isn't finished until the thread is cut. You may think that your childhood has created you. Do you forget that I did?

The woven quilt appears all at once. It was woven in stitches, and yet it is all of one piece today. The quilt is unfinished, and yet each day it is completed. That row is over, and now begins a new day and new colors and new stitches and a new winding.

The quilt is huge now. You can cover yourself with it, but only with a part of it, any part you want. You can lie under the color you like. You can pick and choose. You can lie under blue for the sky, or you can lie under blue for the sea, or a blue silk dress you once had. You can have pistachio ice cream for green.

You can lie on top of the quilt if you like. You can fold it up and put it away if you like, and yet the quilt continues being woven. It cannot stop. It will burst from the closet. It is like yeast.

You are a stitch in this quilt, and you are the knitter of it. The knitting needles move under your fingers or not. You can drop the needles, but not the stitches. The quilt project is ongoing.

There is a quilting bee, for everyone joins in. You cannot leave the quilting bee.

This communal quilt grows in every direction. It reaches everywhere. It reaches the galaxies known and unknown. It reaches the bottom of the sea and inside the Earth. There is nowhere this communal quilt does not reach. When you look at this quilt, when you really look at it, you are amazed.

You may have been looking at one corner of the quilt, and now you look up and are dazzled by all of it, the lengths it goes to, the plushness of it, the shades and shapes of stitches going in and out and each one connected to every other and not one stitch dropped.

Can you find the stitches of this quilt that you have woven? Can you find them? It doesn't matter. They are there, and other stitches will be built upon them. Each generation is represented, and each generation is united with all. This is Eternity, beloveds, always itself, and yet beautifully woven in many hues.

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The first and more important

The first and more important mistake we have ever done: try to reach Oneness outside. Me and others are Oneness.
I and myself are Oneness. We have separated, with a thinking's form, our body and our soul. We belive our soul is better, more saint than our body. We want to live with our soul only. We detest our mind, our solid body.
Here is "Love yourself", that means "Return Oneness in Yourself", like you are.
The mistake is belive there are two, when there is only one.
The mistake is always belive in something that doesn't exist.

Infinite Stitching in Infinite Stillness.

Today God says to everyone and especially to the scientific searchers of a new Integral Theory of the Whole, that He is the Unifying and Living Theory of the Universe. God confirms to cosmic scientists that the Universe is moving along a complexifying rather than a desintegrating pattern. Scientists call "information" that tendancy of Universe towards life, complexity and creation. God prefers to use an expression equivalent to "my beloved cocreators" instead of the cold word of "information".

By using most of the time (in HeavenLetters) the metaphor of weaving, stitching, to express the infinite memory and creation of life, God make this metaphor carry us, in fact, to the essence of creation: an infinite growing weaving pattern of memory and consciousness or awareness which is not totally predictable but containing potentialities governed by the law of Harmony and unconditional Love.

We now know that our DNA is constituted of crystalline filaments that contain intelligent information which goes far beyond a simple linear sequence of letters as they constitute weaving patterns and stitches... Yes God is talking to our DNA and our DNA is responding to God.

The very basic art and technique of human kind is weaving (plectogenics). Even music, especially in the form of the contrapunctus, is the art and science of weaving with musical sequences.

What if this Universe looked like a Tapestry made of a crystalline network of Beings of Light and Sound gravitating around the Heart of Stillness and Love?

GOD, I WISH TO BE HAPPY AS YOU ARE!

God is the Theory

It would be majestic!
Thank you Normand, I always look forward to your comments.

Dear Emilia, I think we

Dear Emilia, I think we don't allow ourselves enough to dream (even extrapolate) especially with the surrounding "scientific and rational control" of our thoughts. After all Reality started with a Dream, God's own Dream.

thank you Norman

helo Norman,
thank you very much of your explane the words of God,
most of time i ven so defecoult to understand God words,
both of inglesh to, i wish i coud understand deep of inglish,
but am always choice of inglish words but i dont want to giv up
to understand of inglish and reading , i know somday
i learn deep of inglish,
and thank you agein Norman
have a wodrfulday,,

Dear Carmen, is your native

Dear Carmen, is your native tongue Spanish?
Your comment stimulates me to keep on posting especially on Heavenletters' topics that present a challenge to our understanding.

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Hello;

I think Normand is very correct. I also have a big interest in dead indo-european language, I'm currently researching dialects of Scottish Gaelic and Norn (language similar to Faroese/Icelandic) spoken in Northern Scotland.

I think a book would be great, it seems that a huge proportion of spiritualists are coming to the same conclusions as you are, it's a global thing, some people call it the awakening (I think). But seriously, much of what I read on spirituality nowadays incorporates this variety of science. In addition, some of the information which is now coming through is outstanding, like on Heavenletters.

Dear Linden, I totally agree

Dear Linden, I totally agree with you on the fact that spiritual literature actually "incorporates this variety of science" but the approach remains intellectual rather than experimental. Even if "a huge proportion of spiritualists are coming to the same conclusions", these conclusions are far from being used as scientific hypotheses or premices that can lead to productive experimental results.The very spiritual nature of Reality has to be used as the «starting point» of this new Science. Through channels we get bits of information but many steps and links are still missing. And a global and coherent operational model of the spiritual Knowledge, methodology and applications is yet to come. That is the new Energy we are plunging in but that we hardly know.

I'm not in a position to

I'm not in a position to prove or disprove anything, but from my point of view there is not even the tiniest point of contact between science (or any area of knowledge) and Heavenletters. Except, of course, that everything happening is born from the same source. I hope it's legitimate that I at least mention my view of things. It stems from Heavenletters, but so may everyone's. Here is something I love:
 
Could the Earth Be Other Than Round?
Heavenletter #1570 Published on: March 7, 2005

God said:
Could the Earth be other than round? In roundness there is wholeness. In roundness there is Oneness. The Sun is round. The Moon is round. All planets are round.

Imagine a circle that is so big, you can't find the circumference. Perhaps there can be no circumference. Perhaps there is none, for this circle is ever-expanding. It is a blossoming circle. It keeps blossoming more and more. What does it blossom into? What does it become, this ever-widening circle? And where in its roundness, did it begin?

Imagine a circle of light, its rays so bright your eyes cannot see the center of it. There is so much light, you cannot see where the light is coming from. All you can see is light. All you can know is that there is light, and light is. The light is so bright that you cannot differentiate anything in the light. There may not be anything to differentiate in the light that is so bright. Maybe there is nothing to see but more light, if you could see. Maybe there is nothing but light, and light is all inclusive.

Imagine that you live within this light. Imagine that you are a part of this undifferentiated light. Yet, how can you be a part of that which has no parts, no segmentation, no spots, no dots, nothing but simply fulminating light, surging and rolling like waves, light having a good time, light knowing nothing else, knowing not time nor good nor bad, knowing nothing but the light of itself, knowing nothing but expanding eternity, winding itself around and around, escalating, dancing joyful light?

Immersed in the light, how would you even know that this unbounded light was light? There would not be a name for light. There wouldn't be a name for anything. There would be nothing to name. There would be the beingness of light. There would be Being dancing in its own light. There would be this energy ready to burst into song, come into play, implode upon itself, replicating the wholeness of its being, furling and unfurling, circling itself in ever-widening circles, embracing itself as if there were no other, when all the while there is no other.

What if the replication of this Oneness forgot its Oneness? What if the replication did not even believe in Oneness, did not conceive it, did not recognize it nor reverence it, did not remember it, did not extol it, did not look for it, ostracized it from its awareness, abandoned it as if Oneness had never been?

What if this reflected Oneness kept looking into pools of light and saw himself shimmering on the surface? What if he imagined whatever he imagined, and what he imagined came to be? He imagined water and swam in it. He imagined sidewalks and walked on them. He imagined other beings like and dissimilar to himself walking around, filling up the sidewalk and the imaginary place he dubbed the world. What if, wherever he turned, he saw himself and didn't know it was himself? What if he imagined everything into existence the way an artist pencils a drawing? What if his eyes were the lenses of a camera, or a kaleidoscope, and he believed whatever he saw, as if it has been set before him from elsewhere. He invented elsewhere.

And what if he vaguely remembered something but didn't know what it was? He couldn't focus on it because it was still undifferentiated and much too big and too marvelous to conceive within the fragile framework he had built for himself. What if he imagined he was stranded somewhere when he was still immersed in the blazing light from which he only imagined he had strayed?

Wow yes I love this

Wow yes I love this Heavenletter Jochen, now added it as a favourite.

Thanks.

"not even the tiniest point of contact"

Though I wonder why Heavenletters have come now and not before.
What is DNA? God would answer "it is my love encoded in your genes". We are able to understand God because we have discovered genetics and the mysterious double spiral. And when God says that all is light, we understand it because we are now acquainted with energy, fotons particles, visible as light and invisible when beyond the ultraviolet. Only one hundred years ago the doctor who first supposed the existance of invisible animals among us, like bacteria, was considered to be a fool. Now we give for granted that there are worlds invisible to our eyes.
I see that also thanks to scientifical discoveries and failures, we are now closer to God's language in Heavenletters.

To Theophil I would say that science is not truth, but just a way to approach it. God says there are many ways, all leading to Him.
The seeking is paramount, not the method, also because we know there is none.
All these ways stop, at a certain point, even Heavenletters, and if you want to go further you take that solitary leap of faith, trust, hope...awareness.

Just wandering thoughts to comfort, now and then, my mind!

Dear Emilia, these thoughts

Dear Emilia, these thoughts are also comforting my mind. I love this beautiful expression "DNA...is my love encoded in your genes". I also share totally this view of yours: «All these ways stop, at a certain point, even Heavenletters, and if you want to go further you take that solitary leap of faith, trust, hope...awareness.». Because even Heavenletters are pointers to the Reality, not Reality itself. The Reality is for us to make.

Life on earth is a real process of discovery and failures are essential parts of this process. Without "failures" we could not even discover anything. Failure is a fuel of discovery just like sorrows, pains and illnesses.

And about this "not even the tiniest point of contact", I think that this Heavenletter contains an enlightening answer: «...the shades and shapes of stitches going in and out and each one connected to every other and not one stitch dropped.»

Dear Emilia, you don't mean

Dear Emilia, you don't mean to say, do you, that God wouldn't know how to communicate with us, had we not scientifically established what light is (which we haven't, of course, but let's assume we have)? But you are absolutely right, at least Heavenletters say so, that everything that went "before" leads up to THIS. Science, of course, is wonderful, as are art, music, fishing, stockbroking or anything I might associatively connect with Heavenletters, and why not theology, the relative merits of political canditates or of pilgrimages to Rome, Mekka, Bodhgaya, respectively. The fact that everything is wonderful for someone does not mean there are points of contact in the sense that one could explain the other and together they constitute a theory of everything.

There are, of course very real points of contact everywhere:
 
Angels Come from Heaven
Heavenletter #1124 Published on: November 19, 2003

God said:
Whatever on earth inspires you, know that it is I. Art, music, friendship, love, nature, science, embroidery — I am behind them all. They are all cover-ups for Me. Beneath them all I am. They are messengers drawing you to Me. I am the surprise behind the curtain.

Pointers

Beautiful quotation, it is exactly how I feel.
The theo-ry of everything is God, He is the common factor and "everything" will reveal itself to be something very simple and thus wonferful.

Oh, I just love that hyphen,

Oh, I just love that hyphen, you're a genius of subtlety.

Since not everyone may know this, I will add that "theory" has the same etymological background as "theater", making the curtain mentioned in the quotation even more poignant.

Theo-ry

The hyphen is indeed subtle in that position. Yet in the 'linguistic' word, it splits otherwise: the-or-y, coming from thea+oros. «The» stands for something you are looking at, a viewing, while «OR» is the act of perceiving, looking at. The «Y» is the greek suffixe -ia generating nouns. So it is apparently redundant as a word because, literally, it is the act of looking at something that is shown. Perhaps a reflection in a golden eye, perhaps the projected image of ourselves we are perceiving or watching for...

Even more interesting,

Even more interesting, "looking at something that is shown"...

...and about "light", I

...and about "light", I would say that God uses the word not only in a poetical sense, but as a "force", a creative force.

"one could explain the other"

Now that I am pondering better your words, I think that "the relative merits of political candidates" could very well explain why it is better to go for a pilgrimage. This is indeed a unifying theory!

The Round Earth and it's name

When my mother named me George, it never occurred to her that I might think, in time, that this body she called George was only God's shabby package He used to carry me, the unnameable around in. Now the ribbons have come off, the paper is torn, I get the message that I might just fall out of His package into His snug arms one of these days. To name anything tends to take something from it. To name water don't make it wet.

George

What we want to have

Dear friend,
one of the pilings of Western science is quoting fully, sufficiently and without neglecting other parts of the quoted item which might question this or that thesis, which is at work and being considered.

So, let me add to your last paragraph .... as Heavenletters says .... I, God, wish to be as happy as you are.

This view of God - will it be possible to integrate it into the existing mode of work of our Western science? Of course, it is possible. But, will it be allowed by the scientific community? Are we trying to invade and to get a hearing somewhere, where we by a majority are not welcome and ushered in?

We are well advised by God and by ourselves, to change our language. So - Is "theory" a well positioned approach, when we are going to be caressing with Our Beloved One?

We all are growing, right now, in every second, whether we know it or not. We are Unknown and officially nominated to the Unknown. This does not mean, that everybody knows this nomination, that scientists know this allowance and reward and Heavenly Income. Science is officially nominated preponderantly to the Known, added by an unspecified view upon the unknown, which is felt by science as an opposite; securing the known, proofing known theories and hypothesis.

Now we know better - In Truth, there are no opposites. So, what is science doing? Looking for truth?

Do we want to have God as happy as we are? Is this a good question? Even for scientists?
Will we operationalize this Question (which is actually a wish of God)? Will we conclude that this is not yet our wish? Will we construct a model of spiritual Knowledge around this wish of God? Will we globalize this model? Will we bring God's love into our experimental rooms and study rooms and cloud-cuckoo-lands? Will we continue our thinking, that God is not everywhere, by use of science?

Really, let us have as "starting point" love with every matter and undertaking, science included. Does this necessarily imply that we have to create a New Science, or that we will create a New Sience? All newly created sciences of former times are old now. Why not taking as a starting point of science, that it is temporarily. Which means, science is not truth.

Theophil

Beloved Norman, there is so

Beloved Norman, there is so much I don't have any idea of. I am grateful for how you relate God's metaphors to science in a way that I may actually grasp. I would have had had no idea of the depth of weaving and sewing stitches. No idea at all.

Are you a physicist? Along the way, I believe you have made other comparisons to science and Heavenletters. Are there more? Are there enough for a book? Do you think there would be value in this?

Beloved Gloria by the time

Beloved Gloria
by the time you'll receive this post, you'll just have posted your new HeavenLetter («Sterling Peace in Your Heart»). It must be Monday Jan 25th, around 21h in Fairfield while I am already Tuesday the 26th at 11h in Perth, Western Australia (today is Australia Day). So I am always very "early" or "very late" to post my comments compared to the American and European posters.

I'm not a physicist. My basic training is in Anthropology which I have taught between 1969 and 1979 in Montreal. But I did quit teaching and moved along working for a french publisher in Montreal then I started working has an IT consultant in 1985. And since 2001 I have been working full time on a personal project which is a computerized linguistic database on the roots of indo-european languages.Funny enough this database is absolutely built from threads and stitches (mainly of latin, greek, sanskrit, germanic but also slavic, etc.) that constitute the structure of words in indo-european languages.

To make my reply short, I am always interested in the way that the avant-garde searchers in science, especially in quantum physics now dare to put the "consciousness factor" in their equation. I think there has been beautiful minds in physics, not only Einstein but so many more (Planck, Scrhödinger, Bohr,etc.).

And the more the new physics considers "consciousness" as a significant factor in equations describing the behavior of subatomic particles in particular and matter in general, the more it starts talking to the average "non scientific" human.

So every Heavenletter that contains information or reference to the world of physics and cosmology (directly or indirectly), stimulates my insights and I like to create associations and connections. And since I have been a teacher, I guess I have a way of my own in explaining and clarifying topics...

Few excellent books have been written on the subject but it is always through a conceptual or intellectual approach of the conscious factor. I prefer to concentrate on what God says about His Theory of the Universe to make comparisons and connections with the actual scientific knowlege. And I should go through all of HeavenLetters (starting from #1) to extract that kind of content. This is something I started doing. And if God wants to feed us and inspire us with that kind of knowledge, it would be a delight to create something out of it.

In order not to overcharge the postings in this forum, is there an email where I can send more specific considerations concerning your request?

Ah, beloved Normand, God

Ah, beloved Normand, God says there is no time! Hearts touch, and that's it!

As I read your wonderful post in this illusion of time, it is 4:17 a.m. on Tuesday, January 26! Thanks to Heaven Admin, English Heavenletters are automatically sent out from Argentina while Heaven Admin himself, at present, is in Fairfield, Iowa, on the same Central Standard Time zone that I am. This is all beyond my comprehension, you understand!

I love your work history and interests -- teaching, anthropology, and roots of Indo-European languages. The stories of words have always thrilled me. I have a book (if I still have it!) that, tells the histories and nature of lost languages. I will look for this book and tell you more about it in case it is something you would like to have.

It also thrills me that you have expressed delight in working on a book that relates the simpleness and heart of God's metaphors with science and miraculously somehow make the physics understandable to the non-scientific as well. I love everything you wrote above but especially:

I prefer to concentrate on what God says about His Theory of the Universe to make comparisons and connections with the actual scientific knowledge.

I too would like that. I never thought about Heavenletters as containing God's Theory of the Universe -- but, of course, it does! Could that be a great title, or has it already been taken!

And I should go through all of HeavenLetters (starting from #1) to extract that kind of content. This is something I started doing.

You already started? That's GR8!

And if God wants to feed us and inspire us with that kind of knowledge, it would be a delight to create something out of it.

Yes, God does! He does!

Normand, I am merciless in wanting Heavenletters to be read and known out there in the world, and such a book as you suggest would certainly bring in a population we want to reach. Maybe you would write some articles too, Normand. You would know where to send them, I think.Perhaps the book would come from articles?

Normand, overload the forum! I don't think you can! Everything posted here has to also be serving subtle purposes and somehow be transmitted over the internet and the vibration reach those who don't even know about Heavenletters let alone read them. (Is this perhaps scientific as well?)

As much as you possibly can, I'm for posting everything. But, of course I'll send you my email address.

Also, I imagine there are Heavenreaders who would like to to help you find Heavenletters that might have scientific counterparts and save you from some lengthy research.

How many theories do we want in this book, -- or what may turn out to be the first of several books? I have the idea that a scientific mind like yours wants to be thorough and complete, am I right? I wonder if it would be wise to keep the book to ten chapters, let's say, of ten theories or ? What do you feel? I do well know that a writer has to have the freedom to make his own choices and you have to have that freedom.

For a book of this nature, absolutely, however you want the business and legal aspects to be, we are agreed. A-OK.

God bless you.

With love,

Gloria

God's quilting BEE teaches us how to Be.

To be told that we are part of God's quilt, perhaps a thread or knot or patch tells us much about the patch work of our own peculiar life. When the needle goes in we wonder what's about to happen and then up it comes and a sigh escapes, unnoticed, even as the pattern in God's Mind goes unnoticed. It's so far all the way up to the top of the divine, cosmic slide. Is the ride down worth the climb up and all that sliding down? We'll see when we land, in the garden patch of God's planting, at what we've been told is the bottom. To be sewed and growed is such a kick.

George

Woven in Many Hues

Nice HeavenLetter :)

I do some quilting so this letter was up my alley.

Deborah

1 Heavenletter Haiku for

1 Heavenletter Haiku for you

Hello Friends,

God said each with all
All is interconnected
In Eternity

Love, Light and Aloha!

On spirituality, God's revelations and scientific thought

The wonderful comments in this thread, following this letter, address a vital concern for us all: the relationship between our concepts of spirituality and our current scientific understandings. I completely agree with the sentiment that the time is ripe to expand on this topic and Heavenletters can help us tremendously in this effort. I agree with Normand that scientists are more and more being faced with the difficult problem of the nature of consciousness. In Normand’s well-chosen words: “I am always interested in the way that the avant-garde searchers in science, especially in quantum physics now dare to put the ‘consciousness factor’ in their equation.” These are new ideas to many of the students of what has been called the “hard sciences.”

Along with this new development, I agree with the implications of many of the comments, above, that there is a strong interest on part of the average person for a better understanding of how science and consciousness are found to be interacting. I believe that there is a huge hunger for this knowledge and that there is a growing awareness of a huge void between traditional science and traditional religions that we intuitively long to fill. I agree with Gloria that we need to find a way: “to make the physics understandable to the non-scientist.”

To my way of thinking, this gap between our spiritual understanding and our physical sciences is artificial and developed over thousands of years in the discourses and teachings of our great thinkers, philosophers, theologians and scientists. The dualistic approach to reality is causing mankind many problems and we do need to somehow get beyond it. Clearly, Heavenletters hold incredible insight to help us in this.

I think Normand’s comment, about a scientific “theory of everything” being far from testable, points us in an important direction. It is quite true that what has been proposed by various scientists as contenders to this “theory of everything” have not been testable and therefore been often branded as “unscientific.” But, there exists an incredible amount of scientific research with powerful and important implications for how the material world is connected to our conscious thoughts and intentions that is just sitting on the shelves of our libraries. Scientists have not known how to interpret what they view as anomalous or “impossible” results so they have by and large found it easier to ignore the data.

I think Linden is right when he suggests that a book dealing with these questions would be great. Theophil’s question about our ability to integrate the “view of God” into our accepted western science has great potential. I heartily encourage you, Normand, to follow your idea of relating the messages of Heavenletters to our new scientific ideas. It would be wonderful for you to write this book and I know you would do a superb job with it. And I am sure it would be quite popular and well read.

I am considering a different approach to this type of book that would pick out certain scientific research findings, which I alluded to above, and consider their implications for our understanding of our lives and our universe. This book would be a wonderful introduction to the concepts of Heavenletters also and would be guided by the insights I have gained from the letters. I would love to hear your opinion on this book idea. I will give some background and outline the basic idea for you.

I actually started writing a version of this book long before I encountered Heavenletters. I have always kept up with and followed new scientific findings and theories and have a bit of a background in mathematics and physics. I had become impressed by the way many scientists were uncovering hard science that pointed toward an undeniable, non-physical interaction between human thoughts and human intentions with “inert” matter. The researchers, though, struggle to make sense of these “anomalous” findings because they violate the rules that we have come to believe guide the material universe. I also found that most scientists, also, while being very knowledgeable about their particular field’s anomalies, had little awareness of similar anomalies in many other fields.

My thinking, in embarking on this initial book several years ago, was to survey the best of these reports and compare and contrast the unusual findings and their implications. I ran into a problem, though. Even though there was clear support for my thesis and both amazing and obvious similarities in all these data, there existed no known mechanism that would make sense of it all. The lack of a clear mechanism, I felt, would seriously weaken my argument. I put the book on hold and began to read widely, looking for answers. This searching eventually led me to Heavenletters and many other supporting revelations. I now feel the answers are before us.

My original book also suffered from the problem of dealing with research that was difficult for the average reader to follow without a strong background in physics and statistics. I now envision a new format for this previous book project that I think would be compelling and satisfying to the average reader. I will give a bit of an idea of the book, including a brief synopsis of what a couple of chapters might contain.

Each chapter of the book would be a story that could stand alone. The chapter would start with a vignette from the life or lives of investigators as they made their seminal contributions to our understanding. The implications of their discoveries would be explored, often in new ways producing surprising insights. Each chapter would place another piece of the puzzle into place of how science and spirituality both produce consistent views of one undivided reality.

One chapter I am considering would present the invention of the microscope and the discovery that the human body is actually composed of over 40 trillion separate organisms: human cells. I believe I can convincingly make the case that our experience of being a single, unified consciousness cannot be easily reconciled with the widely accepted assumption that this consciousness is the product of the actions of trillions of brain cells. The conclusion of this chapter would express the likelihood that these scientific findings, while not typically presented in this way, suggests that we are non-physical beings attached, in some mysterious fashion, to a huge community of cells we call our body.

Another chapter I am considering would present the findings of a team of researchers from Princeton University that has been investigating engineering anomalies for several decades. They call themselves PEAR (the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research group) and they have produced a large body of work that is extensively replicated and of superb quality. Their conclusions are unequivocal and readily reproducible (and have been by other independent groups). The data show that human thoughts and intentions non-physically interact with inert machines in a way that the traditional scientific worldview assures us cannot happen. My discussion would show how these conclusions demonstrate that all matter and all conscious beings are non-physically interconnected and that the understanding of the physical world requires that consciousness be taken into account.

There exists an ENORMOUS amount of well documented findings like these, with clear and compelling implications. I could easily produce twenty different chapters like the two I outline above. When looked at as a whole, it is all mutually consistent and self supportive. It is also the same message that is contained in Heavenletters, and it is all based on well established and well accepted research. I believe it can all be communicated on a level the average high school student would have no trouble with.

I would love to hear what you think about this book idea……Chuck

Chuck's thoughts break the ground for real growth!

This book is waiting for the fingers to type the words. I have a very dear friend that was part of the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research groupl Chuck's ideas leap off the page into the waiting consciousness that's looking for the Way. I say: "Go for it!"

George

I say it too, beloved

I say it too, beloved George!

I agree with George and

I agree with George and Gloria and likely many others that books on new science can be interesting and important for many and should be written and made available. I would add that books on new eceonomy, new management, new ecology, new policies in politics, new styles of leadership, among other subjects, are as important.

Only, I don't know what an extended discussion on any of these topics is doing under a Heavenletter. Anyone who has been reading Heavenletters for some time has heard God say that there is nothing we cannot do or be, that there is nowhere we cannot go, that absolutely nothing is impossible. Isn't that enough? Do we have to add scientific (esoteric, soteriological) explanations to Heavenletters to make them complete for Heavenreaders? I really have no idea what is so interesting about machinery being operated by mind/consciousness alone; or about "ordinary" people flying, walking on water and performing other "feats" of this kind that aren't feats at all, that aren't miracles at all! The miracle, as I have read in Heavenletters, is in our very strange belief that a hand or lever or switch or engine is more real. The miracle is that we insist on believing it so hard we almost manage to make it reality.

At heavenletters.org, I feel quite strongly, discussions on science and other subjects (some of them mentioned in the posting guidelines) are a digression and distraction, watering down the message of Heavenletters.

But then, in homeopathy, a remedy gets the more powerful and deeper-acting the further it is attenuated and "potentized" way beond the point where there is not a single molecule of the "active substance" left in the homeopathic remedy. Perhaps we are generating power through this controversial discussion.

«At heavenletters.org, I

«At heavenletters.org, I feel quite strongly, discussions on science and other
subjects (some of them mentioned in the posting guidelines) are a digression
and distraction, watering down the message of Heavenletters.»

Dear Jochen, I would just like to know, for once and for all, if your point of view on this matter is strictly yours or is it ratified by Heavenletters.org or if you are part of Heavenletters.org? I don't mind complying with heavenletters.org guidelines if it is clearly said that only topics that are "apologetically" compliant with the text of Heavenletters are admissible on the forum.

I respect your opinions, you are entitled to accept and reject whatever you want on this forum. But if a general need in expressed on this forum and this need is ratified by heavenletters.org or by Gloria herself, then the answer should come from there.

WIth consideration and respect.

Yes, Normand, once and for

Yes, Normand, once and for all, my point of view is strictly mine.

No, I'm not part of heavenletters.org, any more than anyone else.

I mentioned the guidelines only as an aside, not basing my argument on them.

"Compliant" and "admissible" are not in my vocabulary and not in my thinking. I ask for nothing but to have the chance to present my point of view. And for eveyone else to present their point of view. I'm not out to make rules you or anyone is supposed to comply with. I wonder what it is that still makes you think so. Believe me, I simply differ, that's all.

That is perfectly ok with

That is perfectly ok with me. Let us just say that you are resisting passionately to the idea, which is your absolute right. I misinterpreted your intensity.

Charles and Jochen & and the River

For those sweet and wonderful Hevenletter readers who still paddle up stream now and then or who get caught in an eddy, it helps to look at the machinery people have dreamed up to make their world and their bodies work for them.

George

many levels

I think that Heavenletters stand for themselves and are complete. Since I have been reading them, I do not feel any more compelled or willing to look for other. My main concern is now that of penetrating them at the deepest level.
Yet, I arrived at Heavenletter through all that you speak of, Chuck. I well know Princeton researches and much of what you talk about and for me they have been a source of inspiration, curiosity and hope that something exciting was going to emerge.
There are many levels on the ladder to Truth.
Jochen, you are right about omeopathy. Besides Heavenletter say that whatever happens is appropriate, even an off topic discussion.

Beloved Friends, This is

Beloved Friends,

This is where I am coming from. I am wholly one-pointedly looking out for Heaven's welfare. That includes getting Heavenletters out there and known. That is my bottom line. From my side, the more words written around or toward Heavenletters, the closer more people will come to God, and, for my own peace of mind, I can feel I am doing my job.

When a Heavenreader offers a service, I kinda think God has had a hand in it. In this case, we are speaking of a long-term involvement of heart and mind for a high purpose. I think we're talking about a labor of love. How can that not be wonderful?

Surprisingly, I am deeply personally looking forward to reading more about science and God as written from the points of view of dedicated Heavenreaders. I say surprisingly because I wouldn't have known I would be intrinsically drawn to this, and yet I am charmed by the idea and want to learn more. If there is Oneness, why not Oneness of science and God? It's going to end up One anyway, for the two must already be One.

I think God has presented us with the two perfect authors of books that will show the union of Science and God.

About guidelines, I am strict about them. Maybe it's the old schoolteacher in me, but I am a tiger when it comes to this forum.

I have always encouraged everyone to post on the forum. Why keep secrets? I keep learning, however. Writing a book is a tender thing so I take back what I have said. It may be wiser to keep book ideas behind the scenes while they are in the sprouting stage and wait until the writing is done before getting feedback.

Can we drop further discussion on this topic here for now? .

God bless us all.

Definitely. I totally

Definitely. I totally support that guideline.

Yes. But I also thought

Yes. But I also thought that, since those book ideas are very good in themselves, potentially facilitating valuable clarification for Heavenreaders and Non-Heavenreaders, perhaps some special communication space could be created on the forums, a few steps away from where many of us may want to just listen intently and perhaps communicate some immediate response, association, personal episode, insight, idea, question etc.

Now this is an idea! Very

Now this is an idea! Very nice. Thank you, beloved Jochen. Should be possible. Let's see how the authors feel.

great idea!

I think your idea is a good one, Jochen. Everyone should be able to decide what they want to pursue and involve themselves with and what they would prefer to bypass in regards to various Heavenletter related content. To be effective, though, I think a special space should be easily identifiable and not get buried deeply in other threads so that it is hard to locate.

This would be a poor title for such a forum, but I envision a title that would convey something to the effect: "Heavenletter-related author's forum." I think it would also need to be able to cache pieces of manuscripts that could be called up with a link to allow efficient revision capability.

Chuck, from my own

Chuck, from my own experience with forum threads I have opened myself, I can say that a topic that has some steady traffic will stay near the topf of the list and not get buried as long as there is some interest and thus traffic; it will even come to the top again after a lull when something is posted again. I think this is a very intelligent design, making it unnecessary to create a new forum section.

Gloria's insight with love

Gloria dear, you have a beautiful way with words. It must be "love" at work.

George

A first chapter for my proposed book

The rough draft of the first chapter/introduction to my book is available for those who might want to read it. Just click on the Heavenletters forums and open "general stuff" forum. My thread is called: A first chapter of a book in progress.

All input is greatly valued and always quite helpful.

Thanks,

Chuck

The book you are putting together

Chuck I read the first chapter carefully. Remember sweet friend that when a book is mentioned you are indebted to the reader to post a foot note which you can have at the end of the book or the end of the chapter or the end of the page.

You have good "hooks" that lead the reader to want more and more information and insight. Perhaps you know of my good friend Dr. Peter Ballbush from Switzerland. He told me many years ago that when he was young his brother pushed him into a mill pond and lost him so they ran for their father. When they finally pulled him out he was quite dead but his father with help revived him. His story was amazing. It included a tunnel of light, a lake of great beauty, his mother long dead standing on the shore with hands outstretched. Around her neck was a pendant of beauty he told his father about. His father grew excited and told him that no one had seen the pendent he put on her neck in the coffin. The children were in a different city because of the contagious nature of her sickness and death. What he saw could not have been seen by him except in spirit. You touch on this Light so very well Chuck.

George

Thank you, Georgia

George, your comments are so helpful. I agree about the citing of sources. When the book is complete, each chapter will have a reference list of not only the material cited, but also all the similar texts I used to draw my ideas from. I think this will be a useful service to the reader.

Your friend Peter's story nicely illustrates that there appear to be many thousands of people who have had similar expereinces with very similar components to them. The existence of these uncanny similarities in these stories begs for an explanation. This will be the genesis of one of the major themes of my book.

George should have known because...

Chuck I know you well enough to know that the sources would be given as the book took more final form but my thoughts preceded my mind. Your ideas really moved me.

George

 

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