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Dearest Paula,
My understanding is that God leaves no one behind.
Maybe instead of thinking we have to change our thoughts, we can just choose different thoughts.
My feeling is that all of this isn’t so serious as we make it out.
Maybe the thought we want to think is that God loves us right now just as we are. He has said that we don’t have to get dressed up for Him. I believe He has said that we don’t have to “earn” Him. We’re the ones who are discontent with ourselves, and we try to become overachievers. God isn’t exactly asking us to perform for him. He’s not holding an audition. He wants us to accept His love.
God says we are always with Him, and He is always with us.
With love and blessings,
Gloria
From: paula [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:13 AM
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Thankyou Serge!
This is the one question I've been wanting to make to God in these days:
Why can't I change my thoughts, when I know which ones I should let go and which ones I should keep? Will I get stuck on my path because I can't change my thoughts, o will You leave me behind, because I can't change my thoughts?
Paula
[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
Blessed Kirt, where does the idea come from that you are lacking something? Who says you can’t have thoughts? Maybe we should just love our minds as well as everything else.
Loving you,
Gloria
From: Kirt [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:58 AM
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Fantastic post Robert! If a master still has an immense amount of thoughts, then what chance does this weekend warrior have?
Does anyone have an effective meditation technique that they'd care to share? I think my monkey mind is on cocaine or maybe speed!
Robert FitzGerald wrote:
From my own research on the subject, there seems to be several layers of mind. The shallowest level of everyday thought is said to take up all of our awareness daily. This is what Indian philosophy calls the monkey mind. It is all over the place. Deeper levels of mind are open to spiritual processes, such as the ability to create miracles, to understand the basis of creation, indeed to become God, or a son or daughter of God. In order to accomplish this state of being we need to quiet the monkey mind. This will reveal entire new vistas of thought and experience.
In order to quiet this mind all oriental traditions have created various types of meditation as mental techniques. These are supposed to quiet the shallow thinking mind allowing us to access the creative mind. And this is not easy to do. I remember one very famous Indian saint who recently answered a similar question by one of his disciples. He said that the amount of thoughts that still went through his mind, even as a master, was immense.
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And the answer arrived...
Today I was somehow directed to read Regina Dawn Akers' website and there in the Gospel of Mark, as explained by the Holy Spirit, I was given the answer:
“But, Master,” a disciple asked. “Surely a man who sins and breaks the law is unclean, and he must make a sacrifice to our Lord before he is permitted to worship Him.”
Jesus looked at the disciple with gentleness upon his face.
“Nothing a man does can make him unclean, for his cleanliness comes from within, beyond the unclean thoughts. If a man believes the unclean thoughts within his mind, he will act on them. But if a man does not believe the unclean thoughts in his mind, he will not act on them. If a man has a choice about his thoughts, these thoughts cannot be the essence of the man, for no man has a choice regarding his essence. The essence of a man simply Is, without his choice or his action. And his essence cannot change, for his essence is given him by God.
“This essence of which I speak is within every man, beneath the thoughts that seem to be clean or unclean and beyond the actions that seem to be clean or unclean. It is a man’s essence that worships God. It is this essence that defines who he Is.”
I might as well put this in he miracles-section! I hope Regina won't mind I quoted from her site, which is really something to read!!
Paula
[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
You know?
I most surely agree with Master Jesus on that one!
So true!
Perhaps thoughts are things, yes, but doesn't each person have control over his/her own individual thought, something that is a matter of his/her own conscience on whether to act on it or not? The way I see it, there should never be such a thing as a "thought crime."
John.
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Great point Gloria! Thanks for my much needed daily shake awake!
Gloria Wendroff wrote:
[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
Kirt,
It is said that the monkey mind runs amok in all of
us. I think that the reason for this may be that we
live in a multidimensional universe (superstring
theory) that maybe contains mental as well as physical
dimensions. This last is my own idea of extra
dimensions. Thoughts are very difficult to control as
you well know, and this might be because they all have
lives of their own and flow unhindered through the
brains of human beings. This idea also gives support
to the Buddhist idea of Mind as being the ultimate
creative source.
For meditation I do TM and like it a lot. But almost
any meditation can work. But each individual most
likely will like one over another. From my own
experience I found that within a few months of when I
began I could not sit still for 2 minutes. My mind
fought sitting still like a wild stallion. This lasted
for several months or more, but it eventually
subsided. Throughout this process I was very gentle
with myself, which seems to be a key. Teachers of
meditation stress that we gently come back to whatever
mantra we use when we become aware that we are
thinking again. Never force the issue. Kind of like
loving ourselves as an expression of God's Love
directed inwards.
This process has taken many years, but it has been
well worth it. In the meantime following the Loving
advice from heavenletters gives the mind something
powerful to focus on that also helps one find the
deeper meaning in life. Following both paths at the
same time, meditation and Lovingness, is supposed to
speed the process up.
In mindlessness, but with heart,
Robert
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Thanks Gloria and Paula,
This message made me think, and man, that's an odd thing! The word Freedom just popped into my head. I am still back thinking about suitable montras, hope you guys didn't leave me behind? The word Freedom, pronounced holding the e and ah souns, "Fre-dah-om! I love it and will be trying it out tomorrow. It also incorporates the OM, ahm sound which is so popular!
LPL,
Joe
P.S. Try it Paula, you'll like it!
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Thanks Paula for another miracle!
LPL,
Joe
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[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
Dear Robert,
Your posts are invariably invigorating and uplifting.
Robert, hurry up and get a web site so you can include your URL and let everyone have a chance to know more about your book. You can get a web site through Yahoo without any additional expense. Lady Isis has a Yahoo website, finds it simple and easy to use, never has had any difficulties. She is very happy with it. Her web site is http://home1.gte.net/ladyisis/index.htm
Please also know how much I appreciate that in every post of yours, you remember Heavenletters and refer to their love, beauty, and wisdom.
Also, since you live in the same town I do, when are we going to meet for Chai at Revelations?
Blessings and love,
Gloria
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From: robert fitzgerald [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:13 PM
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Hi Paula,
Visualization can be very powerful. The more you can
visualize something, down to specifics, the more real
you make it. That reality creates physical reality.
What I used to do, a lot, was when negative thoughts
came to me, I learned to visualize them burning to ash
and smoke. The smoke rose up into the heaven to be
washed away by God. The more I did this, the quicker I
became at seeing my negativity almost before the
thought completed itself. After a while all that was
left were the good thoughts. I still use that
technique on occasion.
When I read Gloria's heavenletters my heart expands
and keeps my mind free from most possible backward
steps. Is getting to that state possible for most
people here on the physical plane? Way Yes!!!! We are
all already pure. We only have to polish the mirror to
see the truth of who we are. That's a traditional
Buddhist image. I also wonder if a quiet mind means a
mind free from all thoughts or whether it simply means
a thinking mind that is also able to access our
creative/miraculous deep mind. Perhaps a thinking mind
full of compassionate and loving thoughts as well as a
mind that takes care of daily activities.
From everything I have read, and how I personally
feel, You are already on that path to freedom. Your
questions regarding this indicates that you are deeply
aware of the next steps on your path. That is a huge
step towards Love and enlightenment. To be aware is a
powerful prerequisite to anything important happening.
With awareness comes the ability to pray for guidance
as well as inner help. The path to God opens wider
with awareness.
You WILL succeed,
Robert
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[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
You're a sweetheart, Gloria,
I am thinking about the website thingy. Should do it.
I am having a book signing at 21st Century on
Saturday, Feb. 4th at 2 pm. If you are interested. And
don't hang on to any negative thoughts about 21st
Century. Time to forgive, remember? Cahi at
Revelations? Sounds good. Let me know when might be
good.
Learning to Dance,
Robert
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Hey Joe,
Mantras are considered to be powerful sounds, and from
what many masters say you don't just come up with some
word that you might like and find that it works that
way. Mantras are derived from names of God. One master
says that the mantra Om, spelled O M, is a very
powerful mantra that carries the process of
transcending or leaving behind the physical world. He
says that it should only be used if you are in a
monastary and wish to leave the world behind. Other
mantras are designed more for finding one's spiritual
core while also remaining engaged with worldly
concerns. Ah is considered a powerful creative mantra.
It is found in the names of most gods and goddesses
throughout history. Our Christian name of God, Jehovah
ends in Ah. Allah has two ah's in it. It can be argued
that our human physiology responds to stress and
fatigue by sighing, Ahhhhh. A natural built in mantric
response to life. Ah stimulates creativity.
A traditional Jewish mantra is the name of God spelled
out. Yod He Vau He. The four letters that make up the
Jewish name of God. Yod and Vau are sounds that
connect with God the Father. He, pronounced hay,
repeated twice connects with the Shekinah, the Mother
aspect of Divinity. This name of God combines both the
Mother and the Father aspect of creation. Yod and Vau
are said quietly on the inbreath, while He is thought
on the outbreath. This connects the mantra with the
breath of God.
The Rosary is a traditional Catholic mantra repeated
108 times, a number that is sacred to many cultures
and might mean completion in some manner.
The Bible stresses over and over again that it is the
Name of God
that will bring salvation. Repeatedly it is stated
that belief in the Name is the active part of
spirituality. The Name. And a name of God acts as
mantra in cultures all over the world.
Christianity has devalued meditation for various
reasons, perhaps due to mistranslations of the
original text, or for other reasons. I don't know, but
I find wordy prayers to be unsatisfactory for me.
Being Protestant by birth and upbringing, I have
created my own prayer that I have found feels very
good to me. It is also a mantra. I repeat it over and
over again like a mantra, a chant. It goes like this:
Jesus Christ, Fill me with Love.
It can also be used with the name of the Mother
instead of Christ:
Mother Mary, Fill me with Love
I say this right after I said that the masters tell us
not to make up our own mantras. Silly me. But it seems
to be connected somehow to the Loving messages of
Gloria's heavenletters. Maybe this prayer came to me
in order to open me to heavenletters.
I use a traditional mantra for meditation twice a day
and this prayer to fill in at other times whenever I
feel the need to connect somehow, kinda like my own
Church service. There are some very good books on
meditation and mantras if you are interested.
Dance on in Freedom, Dude,
Robert
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[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
What a beautiful explanation it is...I (myself) thank you as well....
May God fill all of us with more and more love....
Engin Zeyno (from Ankara/Türkiye)
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[HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversati
MR ENGIN ZEYNO;
Be assured.
God wills LOVE for us.
That is all. Nothing else.
John Steffan Riccio
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