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Shahid's message

I've sent a private message to Shahid and hope that we can work
together. I say we, and I mean we collectively. I am here now for a
specific reason and pray that I am able to aid this imparative goal. We
must bring love worldwide, into every living being. With it things like
hunger, neglect, divorce, hatred etc. etc. will be defeated. There will be
enough food for everyone, even the starving. Clean water will provide us
with safe drinking and rich harvests. Worldwide harmony will prevail, but
only if we all do our God given best. Join with us and make this a reality!

LPL,
Joe

P.S. We are not alone, there are stronger hands in on this, and we must
aid them the best we can.

Shahid's message

Hey Joe:

I'm curious.
Just curious; mind you.
What do have against divorce, for example?
In some traditions, in some moral conventions we usually call 'Religion,'
divorce is as natural as moving one's residence. Why would you consider
yourself an authority and one who's job it is to change the world
according to the fashion of your own conception of the way things ought
to be? I'm just curious because people always asked me these questions
and I figure you must know the answers if you are to proceed. If you want
me to collaborate with you on your project I will be more than glad to,
but of course that does imply you will show me the same degree of
cooperation as I have extended to you. Agreed?

John Riccio

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:24 -0600 Joe Tolve
<Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org> writes:
Quote:

I've sent a private message to Shahid and hope that we can work
together. I say we, and I mean we collectively. I am here now for
a
specific reason and pray that I am able to aid this imparative goal.
We
must bring love worldwide, into every living being. With it things
like
hunger, neglect, divorce, hatred etc. etc. will be defeated. There
will be
enough food for everyone, even the starving. Clean water will
provide us
with safe drinking and rich harvests. Worldwide harmony will
prevail, but
only if we all do our God given best. Join with us and make this a
reality!

LPL,
Joe

P.S. We are not alone, there are stronger hands in on this, and we
must
aid them the best we can.

Shahid's message

Hello John,

Nearly everyone suffers with anger, fustration with
x-lovers. unfortunately, emotions like these grow and cause unhappiness,
and problems, if not corrected. We generally like being happy, living
unstressful lives, and some choose to seperate, divorce. Rarely do we
choose to marrie if there is No love in our relationship. Maintaining
Honeymoon Sensations of love becomes a goal. However, putting two or more
people together does cause differences of opinions, and problmes. Why do
we fall in love? Why are our Honeymoons so sensational? FOCUS. We
are together, touching kissing etc. and thus becoming full of love. Using
the Pink Light Effect ten or more times daily will keep refreshing our
feelings of love. It gives us feelings of love and makes us more
loving. We will not want to hurt others. If used often enough, our
feelings of love will overcome any fustration and/or anger, (separation
feelings.) We will want to be loving 24/7. John, we actually remain
unified, One with our beloved.

LPL,
Joe

At 02:53 AM 1/18/2006, you wrote:

Quote:

Hey Joe:

I'm curious.
Just curious; mind you.
What do have against divorce, for example?
In some traditions, in some moral conventions we usually call 'Religion,'
divorce is as natural as moving one's residence. Why would you consider
yourself an authority and one who's job it is to change the world
according to the fashion of your own conception of the way things ought
to be? I'm just curious because people always asked me these questions
and I figure you must know the answers if you are to proceed. If you want
me to collaborate with you on your project I will be more than glad to,
but of course that does imply you will show me the same degree of
cooperation as I have extended to you. Agreed?

John Riccio

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:24 -0600 Joe Tolve
<Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org> writes:
>
> I've sent a private message to Shahid and hope that we can work
> together. I say we, and I mean we collectively. I am here now for
> a
> specific reason and pray that I am able to aid this imparative goal.
> We
> must bring love worldwide, into every living being. With it things
> like
> hunger, neglect, divorce, hatred etc. etc. will be defeated. There
> will be
> enough food for everyone, even the starving. Clean water will
> provide us
> with safe drinking and rich harvests. Worldwide harmony will
> prevail, but
> only if we all do our God given best. Join with us and make this a
> reality!
>
> LPL,
> Joe
>
> P.S. We are not alone, there are stronger hands in on this, and we
> must
> aid them the best we can.

Quote:

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Shahid's message

Hi Guys,

Divorce is an interesting subject. I do not believe in
divorce, yet I have been divorced and as I look back
on it it was a good thing for me. My belief is that
divorce reflects the basic reasons for marriage. If we
get married for companionship and other basic human
needs then divorce becomes a part of that process, one
that is often found to be necessary to maintain one's
sense of happiness.

In most religions marriage is a very sacred sacrament.
It likely has to do with the older view that man and
woman marrying was a powerful ritual of yin-yang
unification. It symbolized both in the heart and in
physical action the harmonious unification of
opposites counterbalancing the normal tendency for
opposites to fight. Marriage was seen as a tantric
meditation. In marriage both partners acted out their
respective parts in the myth of creation and spiritual
evolution. And each acted as the vehicle for giving
love to the other.

When on the spiritual path it is usually required that
a committment be made to the particular path. This
might have been what was originally behind the
sanctity of marriage. It is a committment to ones own
spiritual growth, as well as to each other. This
required a decree against divorce in order to force
each party to go deeper into their hearts when things
look bleak. There are many levels of love, from
physical attraction to deep heart felt committment, to
the blissful power of God's overwhelmimg Love. If we
divorce for convenience then we block our ability to
go deeper. We have to begin again and that could have
been seen as a waste of valuable time to the priests
of antiquity.

A spiritual image that conveys this is the idea that
there is a big difference between digging one hole 13
feet deep, and reaching one's goal, and jumping around
from technique to technique, from partner to partner,
digging 13 holes one foot deep each. There is no
advancement in that. This being said, I am still happy
that I got divorced. And we are still friends.

Robert

--- Joe Tolve <Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org>
wrote:

Quote:

Hello John,

Nearly everyone suffers with anger, fustration with
x-lovers. unfortunately, emotions like these grow
and cause unhappiness,
and problems, if not corrected. We generally like
being happy, living
unstressful lives, and some choose to seperate,
divorce. Rarely do we
choose to marrie if there is No love in our
relationship. Maintaining
Honeymoon Sensations of love becomes a goal.
However, putting two or more
people together does cause differences of opinions,
and problmes. Why do
we fall in love? Why are our Honeymoons so
sensational? FOCUS. We
are together, touching kissing etc. and thus
becoming full of love. Using
the Pink Light Effect ten or more times daily will
keep refreshing our
feelings of love. It gives us feelings of love and
makes us more
loving. We will not want to hurt others. If used
often enough, our
feelings of love will overcome any fustration and/or
anger, (separation
feelings.) We will want to be loving 24/7. John,
we actually remain
unified, One with our beloved.

LPL,
Joe

At 02:53 AM 1/18/2006, you wrote:

>Hey Joe:
>
>I'm curious.
>Just curious; mind you.
>What do have against divorce, for example?
>In some traditions, in some moral conventions we
usually call 'Religion,'
> divorce is as natural as moving one's residence.
Why would you consider
>yourself an authority and one who's job it is to
change the world
>according to the fashion of your own conception of
the way things ought
>to be? I'm just curious because people always asked
me these questions
>and I figure you must know the answers if you are
to proceed. If you want
>me to collaborate with you on your project I will
be more than glad to,
>but of course that does imply you will show me the
same degree of
>cooperation as I have extended to you. Agreed?
>
>John Riccio
>
>On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:24 -0600 Joe Tolve
><Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org> writes:
> >
> > I've sent a private message to Shahid and hope
that we can work
> > together. I say we, and I mean we collectively.
I am here now for
> > a
> > specific reason and pray that I am able to aid
this imparative goal.
> > We
> > must bring love worldwide, into every living
being. With it things
> > like
> > hunger, neglect, divorce, hatred etc. etc. will
be defeated. There
> > will be
> > enough food for everyone, even the starving.
Clean water will
> > provide us
> > with safe drinking and rich harvests. Worldwide
harmony will
> > prevail, but
> > only if we all do our God given best. Join with
us and make this a
> > reality!
> >
> > LPL,
> > Joe
> >
> > P.S. We are not alone, there are stronger hands
in on this, and we
> > must
> > aid them the best we can.
>
>
>

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>
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Shahid's message

Dear Robert,
 
I always want to respond to your posts, and then I hold back for two reasons: I want other people to have plenty of chance to respond and because you give such a calm balanced view that what else is there to say?
 
Much appreciated.
 
With love and blessings,
 
Gloria
 
-----Original Message-----
From: robert fitzgerald [mailto:Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:44 PM
To: Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Your own Creative Writing-Poetry] Re: Shahid's message
 
 
Hi Guys,
 
Divorce is an interesting subject. I do not believe in
divorce, yet I have been divorced and as I look back
on it it was a good thing for me. My belief is that
divorce reflects the basic reasons for marriage. If we
get married for companionship and other basic human
needs then divorce becomes a part of that process, one
that is often found to be necessary to maintain one's
sense of happiness.
 
In most religions marriage is a very sacred sacrament.
It likely has to do with the older view that man and
woman marrying was a powerful ritual of yin-yang
unification. It symbolized both in the heart and in
physical action the harmonious unification of
opposites counterbalancing the normal tendency for
opposites to fight. Marriage was seen as a tantric
meditation. In marriage both partners acted out their
respective parts in the myth of creation and spiritual
evolution. And each acted as the vehicle for giving
love to the other.
 
When on the spiritual path it is usually required that
a committment be made to the particular path. This
might have been what was originally behind the
sanctity of marriage. It is a committment to ones own
spiritual growth, as well as to each other. This
required a decree against divorce in order to force
each party to go deeper into their hearts when things
look bleak. There are many levels of love, from
physical attraction to deep heart felt committment, to
the blissful power of God's overwhelmimg Love. If we
divorce for convenience then we block our ability to
go deeper. We have to begin again and that could have
been seen as a waste of valuable time to the priests
of antiquity.
 
A spiritual image that conveys this is the idea that
there is a big difference between digging one hole 13
feet deep, and reaching one's goal, and jumping around
from technique to technique, from partner to partner,
digging 13 holes one foot deep each. There is no
advancement in that. This being said, I am still happy
that I got divorced. And we are still friends.
 
Robert
 
--- Joe Tolve <Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org>
wrote:
 
Quote:

Hello John,

Nearly everyone suffers with anger, fustration with
x-lovers.  unfortunately, emotions like these grow
and cause unhappiness,
and problems, if not corrected.  We generally like
being happy, living
unstressful lives, and some choose to seperate,
divorce.  Rarely do we
choose to marrie if there is No love in our
relationship.  Maintaining
Honeymoon Sensations of love becomes a goal.
However, putting two or more
people together does cause differences of opinions,
and problmes.  Why do
we fall in love?  Why are our Honeymoons so
sensational?        FOCUS.  We
are together, touching kissing etc. and thus
becoming full of love.  Using
the Pink Light Effect ten or more times daily will
keep refreshing our
feelings of love.  It gives us feelings of love and
makes us more
loving.  We will not want to hurt others.  If used
often enough, our
feelings of love will overcome any fustration and/or
anger, (separation
feelings.)  We will want to be loving 24/7.  John,
we actually remain
unified, One with our beloved.

LPL,
Joe

       At 02:53 AM 1/18/2006, you wrote:

>Hey Joe:
>
>I'm curious.
>Just curious; mind you.
>What do have against divorce, for example?
>In some traditions, in some moral conventions we
usually call 'Religion,'
>  divorce is as natural as moving one's residence.
Why would you consider
>yourself an authority and one who's job it is to
change the world
>according to the fashion of your own conception of
the way things ought
>to be? I'm just curious because people always asked
me these questions
>and I figure you must know the answers if you are
to proceed. If you want
>me to collaborate with you on your project I will
be more than glad to,
>but of course that does imply you will show me the
same degree of
>cooperation as I have extended to you.  Agreed?
>
>John Riccio
>
>On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:02:24 -0600 Joe Tolve
><Creative_Writing [at] heavenletters [dot] org> writes:
> >
> > I've sent a  private message to Shahid and hope
that we can work
> > together.  I say we, and I mean we collectively.
  I am here now for
> > a
> > specific reason and pray that I am able to aid
this imparative goal.
> >  We
> > must bring love worldwide, into every living
being.  With it things
> > like
> > hunger, neglect, divorce, hatred etc. etc. will
be defeated.  There
> > will be
> > enough food for everyone, even the starving.
Clean water will
> > provide us
> > with safe drinking and rich harvests.  Worldwide
harmony will
> > prevail, but
> > only if we all do our God given best.  Join with
us and make this a
> > reality!
> >
> > LPL,
> > Joe
> >
> > P.S.  We are not alone, there are stronger hands
in on this, and we
> > must
> > aid them the best we can.
>
>
>

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>
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