In the Middle of the Ocean

God said:

All My love. What do you think that means? Only a little love? Only sometimes? Once in a while? If you’re lucky?

When you are in the middle of the sea, you do not see all the waves that lead to shore. You can’t see that far. You are in the middle of the ocean. Yet you can know that the waves you do not see nevertheless lead to shore. They lead you to your desired location. Even when the seas are rough, the waves are leading you.

The waves of life are not always what you covet, and, yet, how can you say they are not the right waves? It is easy, in times of what certainly seems like big trouble, to say, “It is God’s Will,” as if I, God, have a different destiny in mind for you, as if I were a perverse God, an undeniable God that even takes children away from mothers, and mothers away from children, a callous God, an unfeeling God, a cruel God, an irreverent God, so to say.

I do not take your griefs lightly. I would wish that you not grieve, and you, to be honest, would say, “How can I not?” You cannot see the waves as they lap to shore. I do not make light of the anguish that your hearts feel over big and little engagements in your lives. There are times you feel that your heart breaks and then something more heartbreaking happens, and then your earlier hurt assumes a lesser place in the scale of hurts.

As a child, you did not get the candy you wanted, and you were heartbroken. You could not understand. There was something you wanted, and it was right there, and your Mommy or Daddy would not give it to you.

Or there was a rose you wanted to pick, and you were denied the rose as well.

And then there was a love you wanted, and you couldn’t have it.

There are other tragedies in life, you never see the wisdom of. You never see the use. Nothing palliates your hurting heart. There is no answer you can find to the question why, for example, why did he die? All that you know, from everything you know, is that he did die, and this hurts. Are there relative degrees of hurt? Yes, there are, and yet hurt is hurt.

You know My answer. There is no death. There is that which seems irrevocably like death. Life on Earth is an interlude. Death of the body is incidental, beloveds. It is not the tragedy you feel it is. Life for you is made up of good, bad, and not so good or not so bad, yet death of the body of a loved one is not a cruel cut of the surgeon’s knife.

To one like you, however, how can you possibly think, let alone feel, that it is all right? Yet your loved one has reached harbors so beyond your reach and vision that you cannot even quite imagine them. What if what you call death is an occasion for joy? What if it could be? In any case, dear ones, it is not the bludgeoning that you presently think. Death of the body does not have the finality you think it does. It is an opening. It is not meant to hurt you or the one who departs his body. The body is big and important to you. The world says death is a huge deadly thing when it is merely passing through a mirror.

And yet you cannot find the comfort. No matter whether it is a young child or an old father, you weep and cannot understand, cannot accept, and so you fight that which is inevitable while you are in a body on Earth. Death of the body is big to you, and yet it is no big thing. It is illusion, beloveds. I do not take anyone away.

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I believe You that death

I believe You that death isn't as much as I make it out to be. And I believe You that You don't take anyone away. More than cruel or anything, a God doing things like that would be embarrassingly stupid. Thank Your for not being stupid.

And, You see, if we find it hard to let go of loved ones, or a certain loved one, the idea might be that it would be so nice to walk all the way into awareness of indestructible unity hand in hand. We want to see oneness even in the flesh, at least I do.
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There are two things I do not understand in this Heavenletter:

  • What does "an undeniable God" mean (3rd paragraph)?
  • What does the sentence "What if could be?" in the second paragraph from below mean?

Jochen

"What if could be?"

When I read that I thought, "Uh oh, Jochen will be scratching his head on that one." It doesn't make any sense to me either. The only way I can make sense of it would be for it to say "What if it could be," with "it" meaning death and the sense meaning "What if death could be an occasion for joy?" Whether the word was left out or not Gloria would have to say. Maybe sometimes God just says things in a way to make you stop and think.

"Undeniable" in "an undeniable God" means a person who won't take no for an answer, a person that does whatever he wants and no one can stop him, someone who rides roughshod over people with no consideration for their feellings. God is saying that He is not like that even tho it sometimes appears that way.

Thank you, Charles. This is

Thank you, Charles. This is a meaning of "undeniable" I was not aware of. And, by the way, many dictionaries don't have it.)

(I may try to find more questions of this kind in order to hear from you...)

Jochen, as someone, like

Jochen, as someone, like myself, who has been around the block more than once, you may even have run into such a person in your youth. Or perhaps your mother did. They tend to leave a lasting impression.

Beloved Jochen, "What if

Beloved Jochen, "What if could be?" should have been "What if it could be?" I fixed it on the Heavenletter.

I believe Charles below answers your first question above.

I just wish to add that it can't be that God sits and ponders, "Whose body dies today?"

Yes, Querida, thank

Yes, Querida, thank you.

Your last remark reminds me of a funny paragraph from dear and lovely Heavenletter #986:

Do not think that your loved ones leave their bodies behind so that I can exert power and you may learn lessons. That is not the purpose. I do not think: Aha, let's kill this one off, so that Joe can learn a lesson. I am not so focused nor precise. My plan is greater.

http://www.heavenletters.org/everyone-is-one.html

God says it so much better!

God says it so much better!

walk hand in hand

Dear Jochen,

Your divine message rang deep and spoke to my heart. As i attended Church service this morning, Your message flashed before my heart and a vision before my eyes... it awoke a feeling in me - that walking hand in hand, in unity, in oneness, along the same path is a wish of the soul and heart. And this too, during our lives on earth. Your message speaks words of truth. Thank you for beautifully expressing this underlying feeling or wish which we may not even recognise or detect, sometimes ever in a life time. Thanks in abundance

light and love

considerations

We fear death because we fear the unknown, we fear our blindness, not death in itself, I suppose. If we only could see the illusion of life and death on earth, we would fear nothing. But going further I wonder, once we attain awareness and realize oneness, would death of the body still exist? I think not, because that consciousness would project outward a different story: "The world takes a picture of your heart and shows it to you." (from yesterday's heaven letter)

Emilia our hearts yearn to love you.

You express your thoughts to help us know the unknown, to see what our blindness keep from us. You act as God's voice of love.

George

to die or not to die

Maybe we will not be interested that much any more, having realized there is no real body in the first place. Maintaining an image for 600 years or choosing another, what's the big deal? Body is an image, time is an image, individuality is an image. There is oneness playing as myriad forms, even endowing those forms with the idea of selfhood.

And won't life in a body become unbearably boring when we have the perspective of oneness while embodied? When we know the solution to everything that might otherwise become difficult or painful? Without love, yes.

a new story

Yes, the new story we will soon be telling may be this one and also much grander of it. That's why physical death, at this stage of understanding, is a quite primitive concern.

thank of your loveng words

dear God heavenley father,
thank of your lovengnes letter,
its' true my life like ocean i can not see so far,
but i can freferd my self ,what ever com to me in my life,
aslong am be with you, my body it onley material for me,
but my words and my voice and body its maen to me,
when you give me a birth you give me a bless in my life
to sail my own life, the time i dont realey understan what going
own my life, very hurd and pein bod and goodt, now am
understan what all about my life its about you to serve my life
and the other, thank of your loveng words dear God,

Dear Carmen

Beautiful soul. your messages uplift anyone who reads them to a very high level. Most beautifully expressed is Your Heart. Your loving ocean seeps into the oceans of all others' hearts and peace is gifted. You have a magical touch to you. I thank you lovingly for writing to God because your words are healing.

With much love and light. May God bless you with all your pray for loving Carmen

Kaye your song sings release to all who hear it.

With you Kaye we also surround Carmen with love.

George

Carmen you make us love you so much!

Please know dearest one that our love surrounds you.

George

Carmen you make us love you so much!

Please know dearest one that our love surrounds you.

George

Death seems sort of final to earthlings.

Just keep reading Heaven Letters until you catch on to who you really are! Then the ocean will seem less threatening and so will death. But the ocean can scare you to death if you're in it during a Typhoon or storm. I know.

George

The ocean when turbulent

Dear George,

thank you for your encouragement to continue reading Heavenletters. There is profound wisdom, love and truth to all Love Letters and honestly, every word sits so very well in our heart. There are some things we hear and read which just don't resonate with us but Heavenletters just sits so beautifully well with our inner being (as i am sure it sits well with Others as well as myself.

i completely feel with my heart when you express that the tempestuous times within the ocean can often put us off balance and 'scare us to death':) Oh how it does. But sometimes during these immensely difficult times that scare us to death, we learn that life after that death exists and makes us stronger, wiser and we recognize we are still here and breathing even after such a turbulent period. Similarly, death of our human body may be the same too. We may fear death and of the unknown but once we pass through death, it is recognized that our soul is on a journey of learning, loving, strengthening and evolving... and this life here is a wave in the Universal Ocean. I am not sure if i've expressed myself correctly but i hope i have a little.
But when in the eye of the Storm, Dear Lord, we turn to You for your strength and love and security.

Thank you dear George. Light and Love

In the Middle of the Ocean

in this article God talks of death and how there really is no death, it is just a leaving of the body not of life....they are still here we just cannot see them. I have had NDE, and an ADC (After Death Communcation). My mother came back to communicate with me after I visited her grave....She yelled at me, I still cannot "figure out" why she "yelled" "LEAVE ME ALONE" I am ALRIGHT".......I don't remember if her face was angry but her tone was.....can you tell me, God? When I had my NDE - It was so beautiful, 39years later and still want to come home.......but I don't want to hurt the ones down here, so I will wait my turn......I just wanted to say I understand and have understood, even if others don't...Love you Lord, Michele.

Michele, perhaps your mother

Michele, perhaps your mother has found her measure of peace on the other side and perhaps finds it irritating to be recalled to the not so peaceful world on this side or the duties of motherhood. She may be continuing to work out the difficulties of giving to others at the expense of self along with the rest of us. Perhaps you can best help her by sending warm blessings of love wrapped in light for her to find and pick up on her morning walk like beautifully painted Easter eggs alongside the path, blessings sent with no expectations of a thank you note or little chat in return, even anonymous blessings like a Valentine found in your mailbox signed your secret lover.

"You know My answer. There is no death."

Where does this pain and fear of death come from? Probably from the fact that we see the world we value. On this side of the bridge, we see a world of separate bodies — our body, the body of the loved ones, the body of people we dislike or we are afraid of, groups of bodies, masses —, all seeking to join each other in unions to become one or splitting in separation not to become one. Yet the end result is loss. Death means loss.

When we value someone, we tend to magnify the value of the body in which his/her soul resides. Of course, everything we see is distorted and completely out of perspective. What is little and insignificant (that is the body, in God's perspective) is magnified by us while what is strong and powerful (the being) is cut down to littleness. Death becomes "real" , as a belief system, as long as we are not willing to let go our hold on the distorted frame of reference that seems to hold our world together. And this frame of reference is built entirely around the special relationship we establish with people as "bodies inhabited by a soul". We don't see them as souls using the body as a communicating device, but rather as a relationship control and manipulation device.

Without this illusion, what real meaning would we still seek in the body? From the other side of the bridge, death must be seen as a distorted perception of the mind that cannot dislodge itself from its fixed position here, which is its identification with the body. In the illusion of dying, we must feel being left homeless and without a frame of reference because we thought that our home was the body, our fixed position on earth.

Ultimately, what holds us tight on earth is the illusion of love we believe we can find only in private or special relationships. So we might expect that the bridge we have to cross from illusion to reality —
this bridge called "death" —, is nothing more than a transition in the perspective of reality. For God, it is only a reality check.

reality check

Very nice description of what must have been the state of affairs for eons.

But now that we are beginning to see through it (with some help), I feel it's becoming stranger every day to belittle ourselves the way we have, using judgmental words like "illusion" or "distorted." Is that your experience too? Have we not rather blindly (and with striking eagerness) believed in "wrong" and "error" and "false"? Where would they come from? What if all of this is the play of love? To include "manipulation", it would have to be a very profound love indeed, but just what if?

I don't really think,

I don't really think, Jochen, that there is anything "belittling" using words like "illusion" or "distorted vision". It is just recognizing a fact, like all facts of ego. If we are aiming (and I certainly think we are) at the truth of ourself, we have to ackowledge that illusion and distorsion were the consequence of a choice. And, I agree with you, it was a choice of a Love experience through the negation of it.

Nothing can oppose to Truth. It has no opposite. Nothing can oppose to Love. So if Truth and Love are "true", everything else we would call "false" means only that it is non existant. So it can't be judgmental. We are talking about correcting an eye problem, would it be myopia, presbyopia, cataract, etc.

We like to think that we are now done with ego, that it is "passé". But God does not seem to think so because on a total of over 3700 Heavenletters, how many letters had it as a topic? And you can be sure that He will come back on the subject.

Human learns only by repetition, repetition and more repetition. And ego is an expert in camouflage. He will even let us believe that he has retired...

all facts of ego

Normand, thanks for your perceptive reply.

I don't think that anyone seriously believes "we are now done with ego." What I am driving at is a somewhat vague sense that "wrong" is not possible on principle. More maturing is possible, there is no doubt about that. But that does not make anything wrong or bad or false. In that sense, wrong and bad and false simply don't exist. It is not too difficult to see this, yet nevertheless we go on speaking about an "eye problem." I can see why and I'm not criticizing it (and you are certainly right about those 3700 Heavenletters), but at the same time I find I can't follow it any more. I can't follow your and my own learned anthropology any more that purports to know what human is and does and how human learns.

Now I have to add: The thing I love most about Heavenletters is the way they keep telling me that everything is totally different from what I and everyone thought it was. What a relief! We always did our best and now, with a little help, our best will become nice as well.

Jochen, there is nothing to

Jochen, there is nothing to follow except our own beliefs. Thanks for helping me to remind that to myself.
Cheers.

beliefs

I followed mine until I was totally astray.

Hm ?

Oh, so what now, you dear three? After the declaration of the value of believing in our own beliefs and after the declaration, believing in my own beliefs had lead me totally astray?

What if it would be more beneficient for us, to be inmidst of not-knowledge, to walk into it and to live it out?

Theophil

Dear Theophil, I guess this

Dear Theophil, I guess this is the fourth declaration of independance! July the 4x14 perhaps?

benefit

If that is a real question, Theophil, I would answer that, from my experience, the moments of not knowing are coming anyway and of their own accord, following the lead of Heavenletters and our step-by-step growth. Deciding on what is most likely to my benefit has not worked very well in my past.

Well, I think we can all agree on this:

Correction doesn't do it for the world. Suggestions don't do it. Rules don't do it. Treaties don't do it. Arguments don't do it. Words don't do it. Being right doesn't do it. Force doesn't do it. Only the joy of love does it.

http://www.heavenletters.org/a-beam-of-light.html

Is there something so bad

Is there something so bad about that, dear Julietta? Disabused and chic over all, what a style! Have you thought about going into cinema? You should. God would sit in the first row.

playing life

Nothing so bad, dear one, to wander astray, hadn't I missed my chinoiseries so much.
In this transient world, style reminds you of eternity.
I am already into cinema, I am an old glory and wish to retire now.

 

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