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Dear Robert,
You're the sweetheart!
I wouldn't miss your book signing, Robert.
My time is more flexible than yours. I have a very forgiving Boss! Late afternoon is usually better for me.
As for that situation, I love forgiveness in theory! I'm so good at it in theory! And nobody can go forward in life with those little knives of unforgiveness.
Blessings and love,
Gloria
-----Original Message-----
From: robert fitzgerald [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:53 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversation on HL1898
You're a sweetheart, Gloria,
I am thinking about the website thingy. Should do it.
I am having a book signing at 21st Century on
Saturday, Feb. 4th at 2 pm. If you are interested. And
don't hang on to any negative thoughts about 21st
Century. Time to forgive, remember? Cahi at
Revelations? Sounds good. Let me know when might be
good.
Learning to Dance,
Robert
--- Gloria <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Robert,
Your posts are invariably invigorating and
uplifting.
Robert, hurry up and get a web site so you can
include your URL and let everyone have a chance to
know more about your book. You can get a web site
through Yahoo without any additional expense. Lady
Isis has a Yahoo website, finds it simple and easy
to use, never has had any difficulties. She is very
happy with it. Her web site is
http://home1.gte.net/ladyisis/index.htm
(http://home1.gte.net/ladyisis/index.htm)
Please also know how much I appreciate that in every
post of yours, you remember Heavenletters and refer
to their love, beauty, and wisdom.
Also, since you live in the same town I do, when are
we going to meet for Chai at Revelations?
Blessings and love,
Gloria
-----Original Message-----
From: robert fitzgerald
[mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:13 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™
Comments] RE: Conversation on HL1898
Hi Paula,
Visualization can be very powerful. The more you can
visualize something, down to specifics, the more
real
you make it. That reality creates physical reality.What I used to do, a lot, was when negative thoughts
came to me, I learned to visualize them burning to
ash
and smoke. The smoke rose up into the heaven to be
washed away by God. The more I did this, the quicker
I
became at seeing my negativity almost before the
thought completed itself. After a while all that was
left were the good thoughts. I still use that
technique on occasion.
When I read Gloria's heavenletters my heart expandsand keeps my mind free from most possible backward
steps. Is getting to that state possible for most
people here on the physical plane? Way Yes!!!! We
are
all already pure. We only have to polish the mirror
to
see the truth of who we are. That's a traditional
Buddhist image. I also wonder if a quiet mind means
a
mind free from all thoughts or whether it simply
means
a thinking mind that is also able to access our
creative/miraculous deep mind. Perhaps a thinking
mind
full of compassionate and loving thoughts as well as
a
mind that takes care of daily activities.
From everything I have read, and how I personally
feel, You are already on that path to freedom. Yourquestions regarding this indicates that you are
deeply
aware of the next steps on your path. That is a huge
step towards Love and enlightenment. To be aware is
a
powerful prerequisite to anything important
happening.
With awareness comes the ability to pray for
guidance
as well as inner help. The path to God opens wider
with awareness.
You WILL succeed,
Robert
--- paula <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org>
wrote:
> Thankyou Robert for your interesting insight.
I've
> tried many meditation methods, but none of them
> seemed to work. I just couldn't quiet my mind. I> know we are immersed in the collective
consciousness
> and tapping into it, so we can never really be
free
> of thoughts. I feel visualization works better
for
> me.
> What I was talking about, however, was not
quieting
> my mind but changing my thoughts from negative to
> positive, or perhaps I should say: how to keep
only
> the positive thoughts and let the rest go. It
seems
> that I succeed in doing it for a while, but then> something happens and I'm back to the gloomy
again.
> It's about holding what they call 'the Immaculate
> Concept' for persons and things and the world.
Being
> out of duality.
> I just wonder if it's possible while we are still
> here.
> Paula
>
> --------
> Love is the Answer.
>
>
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Dear Joe, in the Heavenletter written down this morning (not the one sent – they are about two weeks ahead) God said:
“Where are the Akashic Records, you ask? They are within you. They are in your genes, and they are not an immutable script. They are written in invisible ink. Actually, they make no mark at all. You are as indefinable as I am, beloveds. You cannot be boxed any more than I. Where could it be written that you are less than I say, less than I am? I Who am the Boundless, where would I bind you to the past? I would not. I declare the past undone. I declare the past never was. I declare that you are, and you are what I say. You are My beautiful painting brought to light.”
God has said again and again that we have nothing to prove, that He loves us as we are – right now.
With love and blessings,
Gloria
From: Joe Tolve [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:52 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] RE: Conversation on HL1898
John,
I noticed that you didn't say anything about our bad doings being kept on those records, was that an oversight or did you do it on purpose? Isn't that our Karmic records for the Karmic Lourds to use to judge us for our next existence? We are here to learn, grow, so that one day we might be suitable to unite with our Universal Father/self, God/Christ Consciousness. Heck I'm writing this so that my words might spark a little more God in all of us. I've got corrupt lifetimes of Karma to burn off, and that's in part why I am here. Our egoes are also being stroked, so thanks to you who might read our words.
LPL,
Joe
At 06:15 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
:
Kirt:
Please don't forget that all the good that's been done is still there, still real, still alive and awaiting further realization. Everything positive we sow goes into a Cosmic Computer Bank, I think. Akashic Records. Angels writing our deeds on scrolls. Nothing is ever lost. The record stands ready and clear; it's real, it's known; somewhere by some. Access might not always be easy for various known and unknown reasons, but whatever any man has done, is there for the record and will be known in the full light of day for all to see someday. We have Eternity to work in. Think. What is this one life compared to Eternity? A grain of sand at the beach? Yet, there are stars out there beyond the planets. And galaxies beyond the stars. Will mankind make it to beyond his solar system?
We shall see what we shall see. Peace. Focus! Yes. But on what do WE WANT to focus, see? Heaven or Hell? I mean. Choose.
John Riccio
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:04:49 -0600 "Kirt" <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org ( TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org) (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)))> writes:
:
Hi Paula,
I really think John hit the nail on head perfectly in his post pertaining to your statements on good and bad thoughts. While reading A Course in Miracles, I came across a paragraph that speaks to the Truth of what John wrote to you earlier. Here Jesus states:
Brother, take not one step in the descent to hell. For having taken one, you will not recognize the rest for what they are. And they will follow. Attack in any form has placed your foot upon the twisted stairway that leads from Heaven. Yet any instant it is possible to have all this undone. How can you know whether you chose the stairs to Heaven or the way to hell? Quite easily. How do you feel? Is peace in your awareness? Are you certain which way you go? And are you sure the goal of Heaven can be reached? If not, you walk alone. Ask, then, your Friend to join with you, and give you certainty of where you go. (T.23.II.22.4)
In every difficulty, all distress, and each perplexity Christ calls to you and gently says, "My brother, choose again." (T.31.VIII.3.2)
stefan wrote: Paula;
God is good.
God is all.
All is God.
Good is all there is.
How can negativity, evil, ignorance, darkness, and pain exist under those conditions?
They are illusions obviously. They don't exist. They are unreal. It's like a fiction novel or a TV drama. Not real. How can it harm you? How can your imagination hurt you? How can a fantasy or a nursery rhyme harm you?
Once you understand the real, true nature of the Third dimensional Material Reality it's purpose is clear. To teach you fear is an illusion. The meaning of events becomes obvious. What's behind them is clear. Why they are there, and what the lesson is is the meaning they give us.
JOhn
I live life loving the light of the lord of heaven, my god, in mine very own soul. Live love. Love life. Live light. Light the way for love in the heart of the world on planet Earth !!!!!!!! LOve the light.
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“I say this right after I said that the masters tell us
not to make up our own mantras.“
Why in Heaven not?
From: engin vural [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:54 AM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversation on HL1898
What a beautiful explanation it is...I (myself) thank you as well....
May God fill all of us with more and more love....
Engin Zeyno (from Ankara/Türkiye)
robert fitzgerald <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org> wrote:
:
Hey Joe,
Mantras are considered to be powerful sounds, and from
what many masters say you don't just come up with some
word that you might like and find that it works that
way. Mantras are derived from names of God. One master
says that the mantra Om, spelled O M, is a very
powerful mantra that carries the process of
transcending or leaving behind the physical world. He
says that it should only be used if you are in a
monastary and wish to leave the world behind. Other
mantras are designed more for finding one's spiritual
core while also remaining engaged with worldly
concerns. Ah is considered a powerful creative mantra.
It is found in the names of most gods and goddesses
throughout history. Our Christian name of God, Jehovah
ends in Ah. Allah has two ah's in it. It can be argued
that our human physiology responds to stress and
fatigue by sighing, Ahhhhh. A natural built in mantric
response to life. Ah stimulates creativity.
A traditional Jewish mantra is the name of God spelled
out. Yod He Vau He. The four letters that make up the
Jewish name of God. Yod and Vau are sounds that
connect with God the Father. He, pronounced hay,
repeated twice connects with the Shekinah, the Mother
aspect of Divinity. This name of God combines both the
Mother and the Father aspect of creation. Yod and Vau
are said quietly on the inbreath, while He is thought
on the outbreath. This connects the mantra with the
breath of God.
The Rosary is a traditional Catholic mantra repeated
108 times, a number that is sacred to many cultures
and might mean completion in some manner.
The Bible stresses over and over again that it is the
Name of God
that will bring salvation. Repeatedly it is stated
that belief in the Name is the active part of
spirituality. The Name. And a name of God acts as
mantra in cultures all over the world.
Christianity has devalued meditation for various
reasons, perhaps due to mistranslations of the
original text, or for other reasons. I don't know, but
I find wordy prayers to be unsatisfactory for me.
Being Protestant by birth and upbringing, I have
created my own prayer that I have found feels very
good to me. It is also a mantra. I repeat it over and
over again like a mantra, a chant. It goes like this:
Jesus Christ, Fill me with Love.
It can also be used with the name of the Mother
instead of Christ:
Mother Mary, Fill me with Love
I say this right after I said that the masters tell us
not to make up our own mantras. Silly me. But it seems
to be connected somehow to the Loving messages of
Gloria's heavenletters. Maybe this prayer came to me
in order to open me to heavenletters.
I use a traditional mantra for meditation twice a day
and this prayer to fill in at other times whenever I
feel the need to connect somehow, kinda like my own
Church service. There are some very good books on
meditation and mantras if you are interested.
Dance on in Freedom, Dude,
Robert
--- Joe Tolve
wrote:
:
Thanks Gloria and Paula,
This message made me think, and man, that's an odd
thing! The word Freedom just popped into my head.
I am still back thinking about suitable montras,
hope you guys didn't leave me behind? The word
Freedom, pronounced holding the e and ah souns,
"Fre-dah-om! I love it and will be trying it out
tomorrow. It also incorporates the OM, ahm sound
which is so popular!
LPL,
Joe
P.S. Try it Paula, you'll like it!
At 05:52 AM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
> Dearest Paula,
>
> My understanding is that God leaves no one
behind.
>
> Maybe instead of thinking we have to change our
thoughts, we can just choose different thoughts.
>
> My feeling is that all of this isn’t so serious
as we make it out.
>
> Maybe the thought we want to think is that God
loves us right now just as we are. He has said that
we don’t have to get dressed up for Him. I believe
He has said that we don’t have to “earn” Him. We’re
the ones who are discontent with ourselves, and we
try to become overachievers. God isn’t exactly
asking us to perform for him. He’s not holding an
audition. He wants us to accept His love.
>
> God says we are always with Him, and He is always
with us.
>
> With love and blessings,
>
> Gloria
>
>
> From: paula [
TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
(TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)]
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:13 AM
> To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)
(TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)
> Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™
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>
>
> Thankyou Serge!
> This is the one question I've been wanting to
make to God in these days:
> Why can't I change my thoughts, when I know which
ones I should let go and which ones I should keep?
Will I get stuck on my path because I can't change
my thoughts, o will You leave me behind, because I
can't change my thoughts?
> Paula
>
>
>
> God bless you!
> With love, Gloria
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Good one, Gloria.
Why?
Right!
John
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 05:16:48 -0600 "Gloria" <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)> writes:
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Dearest Glorious Gloria,
I am soul, existing at this moment . I am here to learn, move up into other planes of consciousness. When the next is gained, I then move to the next, or to the one I've earned via my Karmic records. I am but a freshly laid egg at this point. I will grow until I am ready to move into a new different place. At this point I've got to eat so that I might grow to next stage in existence. If I fail to nurish self, I will be moved to lower planes of consciousness probably right here on Earth. If I mature, my Karmic records are reviewed and to Earn higher states of consciousness, I return as many times as necessary. Realization of self/Self still seems lightyears away. Every time I return I am that jelly found in an egg, have no memory of past life. We do get other chances to grow, improving, but still having Karma we've got to burn off. Our ultimate goal, reaching God consciousness. reality of SELF.
LPL,
Joe
At 05:08 AM 1/22/2006, you wrote:
Quote:
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Dear Joe,
God in Heavenletters emphasizes that the past does not exist. He also says that karma does not exist. Certainly it is better for us not to dwell on the past. We are at a higher level of consciousness NOW. Thoughts about the past and misdeeds pull our consciousness down. Let’s keep our thoughts high.
God bless you.
With love, Gloria
From: Joe Tolve [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:47 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] [HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] RE: Conversation on HL1898
Dearest Glorious Gloria,
I am soul, existing at this moment in the perhaps lowest plane or dimension. I am here to learn, move up into other planes of consciousness. When the next is gained, I then move to the next, or to the one I've earned via my Karmic records. I am but a freshly laid egg at this point. I will grow until I am ready to move into a new different place. At this point I've got to eat so that I might grow to next stage in existence. If I fail to nurish self, I will be moved to lower planes of consciousness probably right here on Earth. If I mature, my Karmic records are reviewed and to Earn higher states of consciousness, I return as many times as necessary. Realization of self/Self still seems lightyears away. Every time I return I am that jelly found in an egg, have no memory of past life. That's good, because I may have been a criminal, petifile, rapest... Imagine my horror coming back to life with old memories and being the child of a woman I had raped, man who I had mistreated? We do get other chances to grow, improving, but still having Karma we've got to burn off. Our ultimate goal, reaching God consciousness. reality of SELF.
LPL,
Joe
At 05:08 AM 1/22/2006, you wrote:
:
Dear Joe, in the Heavenletter written down this morning (not the one sent – they are about two weeks ahead) God said:
“Where are the Akashic Records, you ask? They are within you. They are in your genes, and they are not an immutable script. They are written in invisible ink. Actually, they make no mark at all. You are as indefinable as I am, beloveds. You cannot be boxed any more than I. Where could it be written that you are less than I say, less than I am? I Who am the Boundless, where would I bind you to the past? I would not. I declare the past undone. I declare the past never was. I declare that you are, and you are what I say. You are My beautiful painting brought to light.”
God has said again and again that we have nothing to prove, that He loves us as we are – right now.
With love and blessings,
Gloria
From: Joe Tolve [ TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org))]
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:52 PM
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John,
I noticed that you didn't say anything about our bad doings being kept on those records, was that an oversight or did you do it on purpose? Isn't that our Karmic records for the Karmic Lourds to use to judge us for our next existence? We are here to learn, grow, so that one day we might be suitable to unite with our Universal Father/self, God/Christ Consciousness. Heck I'm writing this so that my words might spark a little more God in all of us. I've got corrupt lifetimes of Karma to burn off, and that's in part why I am here. Our egoes are also being stroked, so thanks to you who might read our words.
LPL,
Joe
At 06:15 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
:
Kirt:
Please don't forget that all the good that's been done is still there, still real, still alive and awaiting further realization. Everything positive we sow goes into a Cosmic Computer Bank, I think. Akashic Records. Angels writing our deeds on scrolls. Nothing is ever lost. The record stands ready and clear; it's real, it's known; somewhere by some. Access might not always be easy for various known and unknown reasons, but whatever any man has done, is there for the record and will be known in the full light of day for all to see someday. We have Eternity to work in. Think. What is this one life compared to Eternity? A grain of sand at the beach? Yet, there are stars out there beyond the planets. And galaxies beyond the stars. Will mankind make it to beyond his solar system?
We shall see what we shall see. Peace. Focus! Yes. But on what do WE WANT to focus, see? Heaven or Hell? I mean. Choose.
John Riccio
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:04:49 -0600 "Kirt" <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org ( TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org) (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)) ( TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org) (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org))) (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org ( TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org) (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)))))> writes:
:
Hi Paula,
I really think John hit the nail on head perfectly in his post pertaining to your statements on good and bad thoughts. While reading A Course in Miracles, I came across a paragraph that speaks to the Truth of what John wrote to you earlier. Here Jesus states:
Brother, take not one step in the descent to hell. For having taken one, you will not recognize the rest for what they are. And they will follow. Attack in any form has placed your foot upon the twisted stairway that leads from Heaven. Yet any instant it is possible to have all this undone. How can you know whether you chose the stairs to Heaven or the way to hell? Quite easily. How do you feel? Is peace in your awareness? Are you certain which way you go? And are you sure the goal of Heaven can be reached? If not, you walk alone. Ask, then, your Friend to join with you, and give you certainty of where you go. (T.23.II.22.4)
In every difficulty, all distress, and each perplexity Christ calls to you and gently says, "My brother, choose again." (T.31.VIII.3.2)
stefan wrote: Paula;
God is good.
God is all.
All is God.
Good is all there is.
How can negativity, evil, ignorance, darkness, and pain exist under those conditions?
They are illusions obviously. They don't exist. They are unreal. It's like a fiction novel or a TV drama. Not real. How can it harm you? How can your imagination hurt you? How can a fantasy or a nursery rhyme harm you?
Once you understand the real, true nature of the Third dimensional Material Reality it's purpose is clear. To teach you fear is an illusion. The meaning of events becomes obvious. What's behind them is clear. Why they are there, and what the lesson is is the meaning they give us.
JOhn
I live life loving the light of the lord of heaven, my god, in mine very own soul. Live love. Love life. Live light. Light the way for love in the heart of the world on planet Earth !!!!!!!! LOve the light.
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Dear Gloria,
We very well might be on a higher level of consciousness, however still on Earth, thus low planes. We've got to learn from every experience, and I am struggling with being so imperfect. The concept of sin only blinded me to the truth, I am not forgiven by confessing my sins. Believing in Karma is making me a better being. I am not lying, cheating, arguing etc.
Sister, I had a bad fall in the YMCA a few weeks ago and was in pain for weeks. I now find that a rubber mat has been put in front of the sinks and extends outward for 12 feet. I had slipped on water in that same area. Gloria, years ago I had fooled the best doctors into believing that I was paralysed in the left leg. My dear, I could have done it this time too. God knows that I need the money, but because of my feeling of love, beliefs in God and Karma, I didn't. I am not looking for wilkie Buttons, 'cause this one from God is huge!
LPL,
Joe
. At 06:24 AM 1/23/2006, you wrote:
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Hey Joe,
These times that we live in right now are very fluid
times, and the veil between the physical and the
spiritual are very thin. This is a time of graduation
and what most of us don't realize is that we have all
gone thru most of this before. We do not have to go
thru many more lifetimes karmically stepping upward in
small steps. Right now we have the ability to take the
giant step right to heaven's door. It has been said
that during these times, once you turn towards God
then all of your karma will be taken onto His
shoulders. You only need to strive to fill your heart
with the Love that God talks about in heavenletters.
Do not feel yourself a failure when you do not live up
to your expectations. That creates blocks in your
evolution. Love yourself for your efforts and that you
do have expectations. Every time life overtakes you,
see what went wrong, love and forgive yourself for
being less than you wish to be, and strive to do
better the next time. This will likely happen many
times, but if you are very loving of yourself then you
will quickly advance to where you want to be. It is
like learning to ride a two wheel bike. You are wobbly
at first and fall a lot. Soon you become a master at
it.
Your ideas on this forum tell me that you are well
along on the road to God's Love.
Peace, Bro
Robert
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Dear Robert,
Your words speak to my soul.
Thank you.
God bless you.
With love, Gloria
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From: robert fitzgerald [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:16 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
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Conversation on HL1898
Hey Joe,
These times that we live in right now are very fluid
times, and the veil between the physical and the
spiritual are very thin. This is a time of graduation
and what most of us don't realize is that we have all
gone thru most of this before. We do not have to go
thru many more lifetimes karmically stepping upward in
small steps. Right now we have the ability to take the
giant step right to heaven's door. It has been said
that during these times, once you turn towards God
then all of your karma will be taken onto His
shoulders. You only need to strive to fill your heart
with the Love that God talks about in heavenletters.
Do not feel yourself a failure when you do not live up
to your expectations. That creates blocks in your
evolution. Love yourself for your efforts and that you
do have expectations. Every time life overtakes you,
see what went wrong, love and forgive yourself for
being less than you wish to be, and strive to do
better the next time. This will likely happen many
times, but if you are very loving of yourself then you
will quickly advance to where you want to be. It is
like learning to ride a two wheel bike. You are wobbly
at first and fall a lot. Soon you become a master at
it.
Your ideas on this forum tell me that you are well
along on the road to God's Love.
Peace, Bro
Robert
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Dear Robert,
I feel like we here on Heavenletters is talking about two different
concepts of God. One is the God who we turn, and the other a state of
consciousness we can all reach. After weeks of being here I am not yet
sure if we are all playing the same game here. Does this site believe in a
divine God who lives in the universe in one particular place, or are we
talking a state of being we humanms can reach on this Earth? Am I a self
realized God, or do I need to die so that I might reach Him? Are we trying
to awaken one another to the awareness of self? Can (I) ever hope to be
God, having a Christ consciousness, or are they divine beings who I worship
in the coming future? Self realization feels good, but unrealistic. Read
your message below, sounds like you are talking another separate being.
Thanks, LPL,
Joe
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Joe:
This sight does not have beliefs. We each individually are responsible for what we might choose to believe. Right?
I, myself, am not playing a game. I know that God is with me and for me. I do not have to seek Him or ask Him for anything. I can do what I want. There is nothing to fear from God because God is Love and the more WE realize that the faster the Blessings will come and make manifest for everybody.
John
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:26:35 -0600 Joe Tolve <TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org (TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org)> writes:
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Hey Joe,
Two different concepts, same God. The Christian
version is a God separate from us, and it is this God
that we all grew up with in the West. This God is
transcendent and therefore by definition separate from
us. We are lowly human beings. In this version we must
strive mightily with our sins and our karma in order
to gain God's grace.
The God of heavenletters is more an immanent God, God
or Love that infuses all things on this lowly level.
This is the God that we already are. God is Love, Love
is God and God tells us in these letters that we are
all Love as well.
These two concepts seem to be opposite to each other
but in fact they are merely different ways of
understanding the same God and who we are. The dime
split in half.
You are a self realized ASPECT of God. Not another god
separate from God. In this sense we are all sons of
God as Christ told us we would become during these
times. And you are not a sinner eternally doomed by
being separate from God. There is only One, or Unity.
It is only in our perception of separateness that we
separate ourselves from God. The image of the fig leaf
in the Garden of Eden is symbolic of putting up a
separating barrier between Adam and Eve, yin and yang,
that creates the "feeling" of separation. It is not
really a symbol of sexual shame as Christian
theologians would have us believe.
Both views are essentially correct and speak to the
same truth. God is transcendent and we here living in
the adventure of physical bodies are a little separate
from pure spirit. We have bodies, and emotions and
thoughts that reflect that body. The power of
physicalness creates a perception that we are the
body, and that body is unruly and demanding. While
trying to understand and master the desires of the
body we see ourselves as separate from God. How can
this selfish body be divine?
While we think that we are separate from God, we are
also made up of God particles, of the divine Love that
is everything. Our task is to dissolve that perception
of separateness. When this happens we remember our god
status and all of life becomes holy to us. We become
masters even of the physical in our lives. We
transcend our limited perceptions and are no longer
separate from God, worshipping a separate God.
Something like that.
Dance the Dance of God
Robert
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Thanks John, a spark of light just reached me! You said that, "God is love," and I am now going to take that litterally. I've read a Tao web site, Taoism.net, and the "Love" you are talking about now is the same as Tao!!! Why even call it Tao/God? I am Joe not Robert, John! So let's stop calling It/Him/Her God or Tao or whatever. We are talking about Love, and I capitalize it because that is His name!
When someone sends pink light it works because we are sending Love to that person. The Love in them then returns love to our inner Love.
My prayer, Please Love help me to find a group of ten troubled people that I can work with for ten days. Help me to find someone who will document it and get it to the media. Love give me an overeater, a smoker, an adict, someone contemplating divorce, a wife beater, criminals, aniretsic, and fighting/troubled kids.
Thank you my beloved Love,
Joe xxxooooxxxx
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Evening Robert,
It's nearly midnight and I just got an odd sensation as I read your message
below. It is like the warmth of sunshine, yet a feeling of light. My
optic nerves are dead, I am in a dark room, yet having this
sensation! Maybe it's Love's love touching me through friends like you on
Heavenleters!
Night, I'm running before I turn into a rat again.
LPL,
Joe
At 04:25 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
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Dear Joe,
What does it matter?
Let your heart be uplifted with Heavenletters.
Blessings and love,
Gloria
From: Joe Tolve [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:41 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] [HeavenLetters Board Heavenletters™ Comments] RE: Karma
Evening Kirt,
"Me first!" What did you mean by "Fear based ego?"
God's Gloria--Gloria's God... In truth, I'm trying to be clever. Not really, what I am trying to ask is it, God writing via Gloria's hands, is God directing her? Or is she manafesting God's teachings?
Lately I've been playing music on my KN6000 keyboard while thinking of God and trying to make interesting sounds, ocean waves with soft pan flutes, a whisper of voices, a sustained single violin note slightly off key... Am I being God's tool, or am I making these unusual sounds via His hands? Or is it the same difference?
In the past I've said that God gave me the gift of a simple effective method of creating love. In the past I had always thought that only in romantic ways we could become great lovers. Now using this tool He gave us, I learn that we can create love, even if there had only been hatred previously. What I want everyone to understand is that our souls, created by God are loving that God in others, and it's being returned to us and our inner God a hundred times over again. Sending and receiving that much love does what we would expect, creat's a more loving soul within us. There are black souls out there no doubt, we all know of a few. They are unable to feel love because of conditioning/brainwashing. What I'd like to one day learn is, can we by our loving them transform their darkened souls enough so that they are transformed? It is my contention that Every being, no matter how hateful, can be effected by the power of love. Years ago the father of TM told us... And Shahid confirmed, told us... that if we can get enough people using the pink light basically at the same time, we can change anyone, even Ben Louden! TI am going to close the circle now, "If we are to believe in karma, we are taking another's karma if our motive of using the pink light is to transform/change/confert another person. Sure, Ben Louden may change, and that would be a good thing, but if he misinterpets his good feelings and says/feels that it is God blessing him for his evil deeds, well he could become an even more murderous person, and it would be our faults, thus we take his karma.
I don't want to find out either! Except from God, and then it might be too late for many.
Guys, you've got to be smiling with me... We sure are good/bad scriptwriters in this screenplay we call life. By our actions or lack of, we sure do make it exciting.
"God's Gloria, or Gloria's God, how 'bout some instruction?"
LPL,
Joe
At 12:41 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
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Hi Joe,
I'm confused, what did you mean when you stated?:
Joe Pink wrote:
God's Gloria, or is it Gloria's God
Also, nobody is saying that you can't believe in karma. If you want to that's great. If that keeps you from filing a lawsuit where you feel you would be looking into some type of shadow afterwards, then more power to you. If you want to feel that God is this spiritually immature Being that judges you and your actions by creating some fear based karma... that's fine too! That's the beauty of free will. You get to choose whether you'll experience the state of being in Heaven or hell every single moment here on the Earth plane. It's simple, you turn your awareness towards God or keep it on the fear based ego.
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Dear John and Joe --
A gentle reminder, dear friends, that on this Heavenletters Community Forum,
we do not discuss religion nor politics. We are here to share God and
ourselves and to uplift and inspire.
God bless you.
With love, Gloria
-----Original Message-----
From: john s riccio [mailto:TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:06 PM
To: TheHeavenLetters [at] heavenletters [dot] org
Subject: [HeavenLetters Board HeavenlettersT Comments] [HeavenLetters Board
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Karma
Joe:
I'm not sure I got your message straight, I'm very sorry. Are you
equating Church to prison?
Surely, I do misunderstand you.
John Riccio
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:41:00 -0600 Joe Tolve
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Dear dear Joe,
Please remember that we do not discuss church or religion on the
Heavenletters Community Forum.
Please remember we are here to post positive uplifting comments.
No negativity, please.
God bless you.
With love,
Gloria
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Hello Robert,
This message says it all, I've only got to pick it apart line by line, idea
by concept, and open myself to its reality. Thank you for spelling it out
so clearly. Gloria,Kirt and John have been guiding me, but because I've
been poisoned by false teachers for so long, I've been unable to follow
their teaching. There are no doubts more cracks in this wall between the
reality of God-self and me. I am gullible and generally take authoritative
people at their word. After all, priests don't lie!!! Forgive me, but no
doubt I'll be having us cross this bridge, or another simular one again. I
am going to spend some time studying this one, thanks All you beautiful Gods.
LPL,
Joe
At 10:43 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
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I'm sorry Gloria.
I wasn't aware I was discussing either religion or politics.
Believe me, I do know the rules.
Sncerely,
John Riccio
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:35:19 -0600 "Gloria"
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