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Collaboration from Heavenreaders for a wikipedia entry for Heavenletters and Godwriting

Hi Every One,

Is Any One interested in doing a write up for Heavenletters and Godwriting that can be posted to the Wikipedia. This will be useful for letting more people know about Heavenletters.

One Love

What I did was look at

What I did was look at Wikipedia to get an idea. Conversations with God on Wikipedia was quite extensive. It gives an idea of what we might like to cover. We wouldn't want all these categories, and I think we will want some others. Broken into sections in this way makes it seem easier to do. The impression I have is that we can make this whatever we want.

• 1 Basis of the dialog
o 1.1 CwG's basic messages
o 1.2 God's motive for creation
o 1.3 Nature of the dialogue
• 2 Parallels in other belief systems
o 2.1 Contemporary parallels
• 3 Backlash
• 4 Prophecies and predictions
• 5 Bibliography and movies
o 5.1 The CwG series
o 5.2 Other CwG books
o 5.3 2006 movie
• 6 References
• 7 External links

What ideas do you have of topics we might want to include?
I would want to include this forum for sure. Godwriting workshops. Also the blog. The book tour. What do you think is important to include? Please give us your ideas.

Me again! I'm pretty sure we

Me again!

I'm pretty sure we want to list the themes of Heavenletters.

As you remember or come across any of these, would you kindly post them right here?

Here are some that come to my mind:

We are One.
God loves us as we are.
All healing is of the heart.
Knowing God is not hearsay.

Whatever you think of would be helpful. Exact short quotes from God stating the themes would be great as you come across some.

What a great idea you had, Heaven Admin, to include Heavenletters in Wikipedia.

For Wikepedia, what other

For Wikepedia, what other themes of Heavenletters do you think of that would be good to include?

We are One.
God loves us as we are.
God does not judge.
Everyone gets into Heaven.
All healing is of the heart.
Knowing God is greater than knowledge about God.
God speaks to us all the time.
We are in His presence always.
All we lack is awareness.
Better to seek God rather than enlightenment.
We are all messengers of God.
It is more blessed not to take offense in the first place than to forgive.
Heaven on Earth is imminent.
We are stars in God’s firmament.
We are moving toward our awareness of our Supreme Oneness with God and all of Creation.
When our thoughts rise, can the world stay the same?
The past holds us in bondage.
Let our light so shine before men.
You are eternal.
Think like God.
Infinite are the paths to God.
Miracles are everyday occurrences.
We are God’s messengers.
There is no death.

What else do you think we need to include?

Although I like the idea of

Although I like the idea of having Heavenletters represented in Wikipedia, I also feel a little uneasy. For me, the most striking feature of Heavenletters is how utterly simple they are. Yes, we have all the themes you listed and probably many more. But however often they may come up in Heavenletters, I feel very strongly that each time they are only of momentary importance in the sense of hopefully allowing us glimpses of the One Reality of Love from a thousand seemingly different angles.

Can we make our representation as simple? Can we avoid creating the impression that Heavenletters are a system of concepts, principles, teachings and practices?

I notice I'm reaching the limits of my English here. Am I still making some sense?

Take "All we lack is awareness", certainly a theme that is played quite frequently. Yet how soft, how almost illusory it remains when you consider this from Heaven #2826, Imagining the Full Sunshine of Awareness:

In My awareness, I am well aware that you will have full awareness before a cat can wink its eye. The way I see it, beloveds, you are already fully aware. Only you have played a little game of hiding the full sunshine of awareness from yourself.

So what is the theme here? When I try to think about it, tears start rolling. I believe that creating an entry for Wikipedia could become a tremendous adventure for all of us who participate.

You have converted me to

You have converted me to your way of thinking, Jochen! You are so right.

I would much rather have the poetry of God than all my trying to make our entry encyclopedic. I have been trying to do what everyone else seems to do.

I don't know how Wikipedia works. Can we just do what we want? I'm going to look at Wikepedia more. So far I was looking at the entries for other spiritual sites.

It seems to be that I have seen entries like about Lewis Carroll, as I remember, that were illustrated and delightful! I would love to use illustrations.

Will you, Jochen, and everyone, please submit your ideas. Better yet, will you try your hand at writing something and posting it here? And I will do the same. Together we can only come up with something wonderful.

One of the ideas that

One of the ideas that started forming right away and is now crystallized by Emilia's most beautiful words on the blog is that we could start by putting into words what Heavenletters mean to us, how we feel encouraged/supported/helped by them, how they accompany us, etcetera. One word or many, one sentence or many, no matter.

I can't resist quoting from Emilia's second comment here:

"You ask me if I am an heavenreader and I can only answer that your letters from God are my first thought in the morning, my constant company during the day, my bread, my breath, my light and so much more. I read and read them again, I cry with them, I laugh with them, I keep expanding my vision. I have no words to thank you."

http://www.godwriting.org/godwriting/just-give-me-god-values.htm#comment...

Beloved Jochen, I think we

Beloved Jochen, I think we will just go for it. Now, what would come next?

(You see how I am trying to inveigle you to write this!)

Right now there is nothing I have written to come near this. I think I must throw out everything I have written.

Senor Jochen, what do you

Senor Jochen, what do you suggest would come next after that beautiful introduction?

Dear Gloria, there seems be

Dear Gloria, there seems be a little misunderstanding here. I'm not talking about an introduction to the Wikipedia entry yet, or about its structure, layout, contents. I'm talking about how WE could proceed to find out what we want included and in which way. If only two or three of us want to commit themselves to the creation of a Wikipedia entry at present, the time may not be right yet. I feel this only makes sense when we, or a substantial number of us, develop it together. I see it as something that has to grow organically and not as something that is put together by a few of us.

Apart from that, the usual structure of a Wikipedia entry seems to be

1. A general characterization and/or definition of the subject matter;
2. An overview of its history and development;
3. Tell what it is/says;
4. Resources.

As for myself, I am "working" on it as I said I would. I put quotes here because it's not any kind of systematical work yet, just a feeling into things to see how they fit together for me. Whatever may come out of this will be posted here as soon as it takes a shape that can be translated into words. It may be good to add that I am not a quick one

Thank you so much, beloved

Thank you so much, beloved Jochen, for putting attention on this.

I understand what you are saying.

My observation, in general, is that sometimes one or two or three people kinda have to do it.

Once started, once viewed, other people will come in.

And, as I understand it, what we do put in Wikipedia is not marked in stone. We can add to it, substract, do anything we want as we go along. Where I got that impression, I'm not sure!

I have a deadline for something right now. As soon as I possible can, I will put up what I have.

I do love what you suggested, the words to begin with.

Beloved Jochen

This is as far as I got. I am not holding it out as anything wonderful. Just quickly written down. You should have seen all I erased! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Heavenletters™ are daily emailed messages from the Voice of God written down by Gloria Wendroff.

Heavenletters have been circling the globe for eleven years. Heavenletters are translated into thirteen languages. They uplift hearts and brighten minds. Our lives are based on our perceptions. When our perception changes, so do our lives.

There are over 3500 Heavenletters. Topics cover all kinds of relationships, parents and children, husbands and wives, friends, including our personal relationship with God. Other topics are Free will, consciousness, freedom, letting go of the past, unboundedness of soul
more?

Some titles?

Heavenreaders also ask God their heartfelt personal questions.

Gloria calls the process of writing down what she hears God whisper to her ever so quietly Godwriting™. She gives Godwriting workshops all over the world where everyone can learn this easy natural process of two-way communication with God. It doesn’t matter who you are. It takes no special talent, gifts, skills. It doesn’t matter where you are. Whether you live in California or Romania, Godwriting is easy.

The only requirement for Godwriting is that you are a human being. Do you qualify? Absolutely, you don’t have to have had flashy experiences in order to Godwrite. Only you need is the desire and the willingness. The workshops create the climate for going ahead and Godwriting, and it’s really nice to begin in a group of like-minded people who also want to get closer to God.

Heavenletters, Love Letters from God, Book One, and the Heaven CD, have introductions by Bernie Siegel, M.D.

Who is Gloria to do this? No one at all.

Wikipedia - A First Step

Dear Gloria, I gott {I was about to correct this, but it's nice, isn't it} goosebumps all over when I read your first sentence for Wikipedia, "Heavenletters™ are daily emailed messages from the Voice of God written down by Gloria Wendroff."

Listen to the first sentence I had: "Heavenletters™ are God's daily messages to humanity as written down by [Gloria Wendroff] in a process called [Godwriting™]. (I put in [ ] what may become internal links in the published entry.)

The next thing I had in mind was to state who the God of Heavenletters says He is, using two or three short quotations.

But back to my goosebumps, the important thing for me is that we seem to have the same attitude towards this, which is to be simple and straightforward and not pussyfoot about anything nor make it a dissertation.

Your first step is gorgeous, inspiring. Not just for me, I hope. Anyway, you are motivating me and I hope to be back with some more stuff soon.

Jochen, I absolutely love

Jochen, I absolutely love what you have written !!! You really gott it !!

much love and a big hug and thanks for all the work you re doing !
Berit

Gott is very good! I agree

Gott is very good! I agree with everything you say. It does give goosebumps to know we're on the same wave length.

I love what you're doing. What quotes do you have in mind? It has to be that God's words will be the most powerful of all.

I'm looking forward to seeing what else you have in mind.

God bless you.

Muchas gracias, Senor.

Love, Gloria

More for Wikipedia

I have simply tried to find some Heaven material that might be suitable for our presentation. This is a huge post, I know, but what follows is meant to be just a pool of material and ideas for us to choose from.

Now we have to find out how Glorias ideas and these quotable materials can be worked into a structured whole that might become a first draft. More ideas and suggestions welcome!

How privileged you are to read what I say! What a noble time
you live in! How blessed you are!

#252

God

Who is the God of Heavenletters?

When God speaks of the "Great Ones" in Heavenletters, specifically mentioning Buddha, Christ and Mohammed (#2402) – the ones who moved their heart over to Mine (#1859), who emanated love without direction (#1245), who were not thinking of themselves (#2543), who were about service to Me (#2771) –, it becomes evident that He is not to be identified specifically with any of the world's religions but prior and common to all of them.

God says about Himself:

There is only one side to Me. I am not one way one moment and another way later. I am God, and I am Love. I do not have moods. I do not go up and down. I am steady.
I do not assume a pose. I do not smile for the camera. I smile at you and never look away from you. Always present, I am never absent. I have no conditions. If you were to say that I am in a state, the state I'm in is love and no other.
A God of Love does not punish. He does not keep score. He doesn't approve nor disapprove. He loves.
(#1128)

About Heavenletters:

There is a Golden Touch to what I say. More than the words, more than the structure, more than the thoughts, there is an invisible silent blessing from Me. You cannot hear it. You cannot see it. You cannot touch it. And yet My Golden Touch touches you.
Take all My words away, and My Golden Touch remains. Erase, and My love within Heavenletters remains like invisible ink. Take an eraser and erase My written words from your notebook, and still an impression is left. My words once spoken are spoken. What I say stands. Nothing topples it.
You well know by now that there is something greater than My words contained in these messages from My heart. As a matter of fact, My love is instantaneous and eternal and cannot wait for words. My words trail My love.
(#2690)

Although I talk here in general terms, I talk specifically to you. If you are reading this, I speak to you. If you are hearing this, I speak to you. You are all so intimately connected to one another and to Me. My words will strike a chord in you, and you will be struck by something in what I say.
And every day I say the same. I say to be the love that you are. I say to be My love. I say We are One, and you and I are never isolated. We are part of everything in known and so-called unknown existence. We are part and we are Sum and Total. We are part of the world and We are all of eternity. We meet all at once. We meet right now and forever. How beautiful are We in Our Wholeness!
(#703)

God and Man

There is a Heavenletter, #2217, "We Are Immortal Together", which I feel is a wonderful introduction to Heavenletters for people not yet familiar with the material. All of the most important themes are addressed here. If we were to post one complete HL in Wikipedia, I think I would choose this one. If we don't, perhaps the first paragraph is worth quoting:

We Are Immortal Together
Heavenletter # 2217 Published on: December 19, 2006
God said:
Think of Me any way you like. Have Me as a kindly Grandfather far away in the Sky. Have Me fluttering in your heart. Have Me radiating from everyone and everything. I am everywhere, so where can you not find Me? Blindfolded, you can find Me, beloveds. I am easy to find. I am an unbounded God, yet you can find Me even in the most finite details. Even in the atom, I exist, and you can find Me whichever way you turn or do not turn.
It would indeed take work not to find Me, to think I am not where you are. You would have to object a great deal not to find Me. However, it is not exactly finding Me. I am not exactly found, for I am never lost and never lost to you. I have imparted Myself to you. We are unpartable.
I am out in the open. Never in hiding, you may have hidden Me from your purview. What is outside your window is outside your window whether the drapes are open or not. Just so, My existence, which is such a part of you, is independent of your perception. Your perception affects Me not. It affects you. For My children, I am like the awareness of a million trillion dollars in the bank. With awareness of your great wealth, the way you walk is different. Knowing you are a trillionaire has its own merit, yet belief in a fortune without the actuality only goes so far. Walking on air only works when there is a foundation for it. You have the foundation, so walk on air now.
Here you have the Source of All right with you, and yet you abandon your awareness for the sake of some idea of independence. I am your independence, beloved. I gave you free will, and I gave it to you freely. I also gave you Myself. Sometimes you project your abandonment of Me and feel you have been abandoned. It is impossible for Me to abandon you. I Who gave you free choice have no choice but to be with you. You are My occupation. Being right along with you is, of course, how I would have it. I would not be without you or away from you or anywhere but with you, not for anything. I would never leave you.
When you are beset with the world, you worry about My Existence. I understand this, yet your worry is unfounded. I am inseparable from you. It’s true that the sun will rise tomorrow, and it is true I love you and never leave you, never have left you, never will, not even for a moment. I am not distracted from you. I am embedded in your heart. There is no way you can be without My Presence. You would not even exist were it not for My Presence.
Although you may abandon your realization of My EverPresence, you cannot flee from Me. There is nowhere you can go where I am not. If I cannot -- will not -- leave you, how can you successfully flee from Me? No matter what dark road you go down, My cloak is around you. Nothing can happen to you because We are immortal together. From the first birth of Creation, We arose together. We have been rising still. We lift off together. We arise right now. We arise. We arise beyond belief, beyond the confines of your mind, beyond the confines of the world. We are ascended, beloveds. We have risen.

And if we want something truly spectacular, something that after several readings still leaves me open-mouthed, we will take this one:

What a Diversion the World Is
Heavenletter # 1687 Published on: July 3, 2005
God said:
How beautiful is the world I made for you. The world was made for you. I prepared it for you. I contemplated the moon and the sun and the stars and made them elegant. I made the sun yellow to reflect My light. I made the sky blue and the seas blue for serenity. I made grass green and soft to lie on. You came to Me in a dream. Being One, We dreamed each other. We dreamed of Truth and, therefore, it was no dream, for Truth was and is Our essence, and love Our reality.
We look into each other’s eyes which is to say we look into a mirror. We reflect off each other even though there is no other. Eyes see inward and outward even though in and out are illusions. There is no near and no far. There is nothing between Us unless you call love between Us. But love is Our Oneness so there is no in between.
I love Myself which is to say I love the illusion of you.
Time and space do not exist so how can separation?
If I am One, how can you be apart from Oneness? There is nothing for you to be but Oneness. One is as far as I can count.
There was nothing to create but in imagination. So I imagined you, or you imagined yourself. I made up players to keep Me company. In other words, I had a thought, and My thoughts materialized in a haze. I had a thought of you. I thought of you. I think of you still.
You discover that you are Myself thinking of you (Myself). You do not exist separate from Me, which is to say, you do not exist. The train of thought you have gone off on seems like existence but you are an embodiment of that which is eternal love and cannot be embodied. You represent Me in this circular motion. You are My representative on Earth, even though there is no Earth. It certainly seems that there is Earth, for We walk on it, but We walk off into the Sunset or the Sunrise of which there is no difference, for We are beyond, and the sun neither sets nor rises except in this illusion We have temporarily agreed upon. We think it is Our playing field but it is merely a rumble of thought, a heartbeat of Oneness playing at something else.
There is nothing to talk about. It is all thought. It is an electrical current. Light dashes around and calls itself something else. We imagine particles. We study them with our eye to a microscope or a telescope. We study sections of Oneness to find Oneness sectionless.
What a diversion the world is. Oneness composes itself. One thought becomes many. Thought appears on a screen, and it goes off the screen. The screen is imaginary too so what was there for thought to go off of? Thought went on a tear. It went on tangents of itself, and yet there is only One Thought. So I thought of Myself in many ways in order to come back to Oneness from which I never departed, from which We can’t. I say We out of courtesy to you. I pretend for a moment, just like you, that We are each other when only Oneness exists.
I am not yours, and you are not Mine. I am Myself. And you are Myself. You who are on a stroll plague yourself with thoughts of an existence that is not but yet believed in with great might. Return to the joy of Oneness from which you have never left except in a flight of fancy from which you can only return, particularly since you never left.

What else?

I think we should have a section on "The Story of Heavenletters". We can keep it short and refer to the story as told on the Heaven web site. I feel we only need the essentials of the biographical backgrund and of the experiences that led up to the beginning of Godwriting™. So, essentially, when and how did it begin.

Some of Santhan's statistics could also go here.
http://www.heavenletters.org/for-those-who-like-numbers-11276.html

And is there anything to add about recent and current developments?

To what Gloria wrote about Godwriting we might add that it is not considered channeling since it doesn't involve altered states of colnsciousness. Glorias role in Godwriting, using God's own expression, ist hat of a "typewriter".

There is a closing quote I have in mind. It's from #680, "Simply Being":

You are beyond human reckoning, just as I am.
You are more than everything you do.
You are more than everyone or anyone says you are.
You are more than you conceive.
But you are not inconceivable, for I conceived you. You need no conception of yourself. You need not conceive who you are. Change conceiving to being. Plain being. No more assembling. No more putting two and two together. Simply being. Simply being you. You.

Jochen, I am blown away!

Jochen, I am blown away! Where do I sign up! I want a subscription in every language!

What you have put together is far above anything I ever dreamed of.

What I think you have here is a weaving of the relative world and the Divine. The down to earth headings you give, such as: Who is the God of Heavenletters? God and Man -- these are powerhouses. The headings you've chosen pin it down, make it very down-to-earth, and then God's words spin the reader around.

It's like first your words take a hold of a reader's mind, and then God grabs him by the lapels of his heart! (I think God contributed that image.)

The headings make our entry look normal, while the quotations break the bank!

And, yes, statistics! Perfecto! The same person who gave us the statistics is the same person who thought of asking Heavenreaders to create what we submit to Wikipedia. Brilliant!

I suppose we need more headings to place the quotations under. Why do I keep feeling we're getting away with something when God stars in our write-up?!! Well, it is taking advantage!

This is great, Jochen.

Yes, let's get some more people chipping in. All welcome.

Dear Jochen, I'm totally

Dear Jochen,

I'm totally speachless, you did a divine work. This is amazingly beautiful !! I do admire you so much, you are fantastic really. We can never thank you enough I feel !

Thanks from the depth of my heart !

much love and a tender hug
Berit