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Beauty.
Posted January 2nd, 2006 by stefan
Betcha.
Can a belch of a baby be beautiful?
Can poverty?
Hunger?
Disease?
War?
Death?
Suffering, torture, pain?
Can lives destroyed by financial failure
bring joy?
Can people crippled by fear
cause happiness?
No.
None of that's true.
What's that?
A result of conflicts.
Misunderstandings.
Confusion.
Anger misplaced.
Misused energy.
Illogical thinking.
Irrational purposes.
Illusionary Reason.
What's more.
None of these HAVE to be.
None of it.
No.
Beauty.
Karma?
Beauty.
Yes, Joe: KARMA.
That is: i.e.; Responsibility for oneself.
John
Beauty.
Johnny, you have given a profound definition of karma. As you define it,
karma does indeed exist.
Love and blessings, Gloria
Beauty.
Thanks John,
You sound like a person who would know: I must ask you, "How do we stop our
negative Thoughts? Christ told us that we commit adultery if we even think
of... I've read in Paul Twitchel's Flute of God that our thoughts create
negative karma. Do you have a magic pill for us?
LPL, (Love's Pink Light,)
Joe
Beauty.
No.
I have no magic PILL.
Look at www.matreya.org
and tell me what you think.
John Riccio
Beauty.
Stopping negative thoughts is based on
the thought that thought can be negative.
Do you think that is possible?
What is the difference between positive and negative thoughts?
Does thought have a charge?
A valience?
A direction form one place to another?
Does thought have weight or gravity?
Mass or energy?
What makes you assume
a thought can be either
positive or negative?
Is it just because you have heard it said all your life?
You must examine your beliefs.
How would You define what you
mean by a negative thought?
I'm just wondering.
I really don't know.
John Riccio
Beauty.
This is brilliant!
Beauty.
Hello John,
Love is good, hurting is bad. If we by our actions or lack there of harm
other members of our human race, we are being negative, (antiChrist.) If
we do something that is distasteful to us to others,we are being
negative. I wouldn't want you even thinking about how to get my
wife. That would be hurting me in a karmic way, even if only a
thought. I'm playing piano in a bar and your putting that $50 bill into my
tip dish was very good/posative, thanks by the way! My wanting to share a
method of transforming people's lives in posative ways is, "A good thing,"
as Martha Stuart would say. Our putting loving healing hands and pouring
our life energy into someone very ill, is what we would want others to do
for us.
LPL,
Joe
You of course are being the devil's advocate, and you did make us wonder
for a moment. Satan is not always bad. He often makes us think of God,
love, caring etc. etc.
Beauty.
and who says that something is good or evil?
it is judging by anything we once were tought - our parents were tought - our grandparents were touhgt.....
that are the two sides of the one medal
the one likes better the head
the other likes better the number
and something may look as evil and a time later it is shown as one of the best things that could happen.....
so if we can get more and more detached ( heavenletter#1886:Attachment requires conditions. Attachment makes rules and laws which impinge on love and separate it from itself.) the more and more we are able to see other perspectives -
these are just my thoughts about - and in sending and being love we stay in our Creator's service and so in our all service...
Beauty.
Dear Joe,
Yes.
True.
Yet, one question.
Are you really sure thoughts can have an effect?
and if you assert that they do, how can they?
I've tried and tried and tried to bend a spoon
with my bare mind.
Guess what? It didn't bend.
Nothing happened.
No effect.
Can you prove to me
that
if I think of you,
you will, what can I say?
React?
It seems perhaps the stuff of science fiction to me.
Of course, not everybody can be as scientificly objective
as all that. But when you think about it, if one has thoughts that
are neither negative or positive (theortically, hypothetically, experimentally,. existentially) then wouldn't that create a condition in which there would be no reaction to the thought? I mean, if the thought only existed as thought without intention and had no desire to harm or to help, but was neutral, what would that mean?
I'd hate to be considered the devil's advocate. If you wish to look at me that way, that's your business.
I'm merely exploring truth.
I do welcome your input. It is very interesting, sir.
Also, what you are talking to me about seems more like something that falls into the areas of Faith and Prayer. I don't know about the other stuff too much. Please tell me more, Joe.
Thanks.
John Riccio
Beauty.
Okay John, or whoever you are calling yourself this time around. You do
know me, and I am very gullible, and would be buying this product if I had
sight! I've bounced from one religion to another calling myself a
seeker. I like Taoism, am presently studying Eckankar, have gone from an
athest to a believer in God, Christ consciousness thanks to this web
site! Although, this view of Christ is different, and I've been honestly
feeling what is being professed here for many years. Still friend friend
of mine/Jesus, the Catholic church warned me about antiChrist, even though
I was one of you for a time. They taught, "You are not God nor Jesus
Christ! It is sinful to think that you are!!!" Friend,one atom on my
little left toe is Jesus, what makes me think that Every cell then is
Him? I am one drop of water in the eternal ocean of God, how can I even
conceive of being His Universal Sea? John, I am one atom of love in God
and Jesus, what makes me thingk that I could teach all of humanity how to
love?
LPL,
Joe
P.S. Thanks friend, we need more of you!
Beauty.
Joe:
What does it mean when you say, "this time around?"
John
Beauty.
Dear John,
I had no "intent" to knock you in any way. So if I misused the term devil's advocate forgive me. I really like what you and I are discussing, and am appreciating our discussion, as others are too I'm sure. If not... I am! By devil's advocate I meant that you are causing ME to look at God, Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit in a more realistic way... modern New Age Oneness.
Beauty.
Dear John,
Blessings, I thought that you'd call me up about my other comments in that
message. to answer this question, I believe in reincarnation. God wanted
to share His perfect Love with more than just Himself, thus created
us. God is perfect and nothing He creates is less than perfect. As I said
in my last message, our souls are created perfect, but by our upbringing or
assumed interpetation of happenings, we become less than perfect. Thus we
are born again, this time with good or bad karma. To become one, workers
of God, we must become One by equaling karma. John, please understand, I
am two, the old me, after brain hemorrhages I am becoming the child I've
been seeking for lives. I've got six cavernous defects in my brain and
any...
LPL,
Joe
Beauty.
In the inner sanctum of the mental arena, I call mind, there is agreement between you and I, Joe. But one must look beyond "ThOUGHT" into the essences of consciousness, which is SPIRIT and even beyond into the Divine areas of Angels and beyond that into God knowledge. Recognition and awareness of worlds, spheres, levels and planes beyond the Mental; is reserved for the most sophisticated of individual souls and I would agree with One Thing you said, Karma and Reincarnated Lives have A LOT to do with it.
Joe, knowing myself as I do, I must say this. I won't apologize for what said, again. I don't know, however; if I can keep from getting angry if my words incite personal attacks toward me from you. I will not tolerate abuse from you and if need be, I will summarily withdraw from the Heavenletter's group rather than suffer humiliation from you again.
I am a simple man, living a peaceful life, with no intent to hurting anyone, or interfering in anyway in anyone's personal affairs. And I have always all my life lived this way. Always. My motto is: Harm no one, do what you will. And I holdfast to the Golden Rule. "DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU."
Peace to you, brother.
Yours Very Truly,
Stefan John
Beauty.
Dear John and everyone!
The intelligence and heart of everyone on this forum simply has me in awe.
You’re all so brilliant! That’s the only word for it. Brilliant.
And good-hearted too!
On another subject, I would like to ask everyone to please stay away from religion on the forum. It’s just not the place for any discussion of any religion. Religion and politics, please not on this forum. Is that all right with everyone?
Everyone gets emotional when it comes to religion and politics. We’re here to become closer to God.
God bless us all.
With love, Gloria
Beauty.
Hello John,
Are there any strike outs in this game of life? Being that you believe in
karma as I am beginning to, have you wondered why I am blind etc. etc.? So
have I. I'd like to visit the Causal plane while still alive so that I
might find out. Forgive me if I've already said this, but God is perfect
and can't create what is imperfect. Therefore God created our souls
perfect, and while in our mother's womb or shortly after birth, we entered
our bodies. In our primal life, our first, we took on negateive and/or
possative karma. In our goals of reaching oneness with our Universal
Father we took on new lives. I think that because of past life deeds we
are either born into poverty/wealth, male/female, healthy/sick--
bodies. Imagine,-- that black boy in Africa took my gatherings I had
worked all day for, and I took his life! My knife went first through his
eyes then into his brain-- I am now blind, have no pituitary gland, brain
hemorrhaging etc. etc. God is absolute love, and didn't cause any of this,
I did! John, I could go on writing things like this all night, but it's
already 11:11 p.m. and almost time for bed. I feel your genuineness,
although I've got to be honest, I feel that it is you who is acting
rash. Admittedly I am becoming more and more like that charished
child. Daily I am becoming more loving. I am expecting that I will become
a better one of God's light workers. Although I diligently meditate, pray,
focus on love and unity daily, I am only rounding first base. You my
brother in Christ consciousness are still at the bat rack. Satan is the
pitcher trying to strike us out, God is the most fair umpire, Jesus the
manager, and the Holy Spirit our coach. We've all got to be sure that our
bats, (our beliefs,) aren't faulty. If they are any balls we hit will only
be esy to catch pop ups.
LPPL, Love's Pure Pink Light,
Joe
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In Christ,
Joe
Beauty.
Good point Jennine and John. However, one can spend all day/night chanting a montra while their hearts are focused on reality of Christ-self. Our sitting at our computers for hours is the same when you come down to it. We can sit here playing games all day or writing and reading enlightening Heavenletters to one another. The guys playing those games though may find it a diversion and really be seriously praying.
LPL,
Joe
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