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Godwriting Workshop Itineray Proposal - Open for discussion


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Please click the markers for more info. Above you can see two proposed routes, Route 1 including the yellow markers and Route 2 excluding.

Route 1

Takes 23 days to complete, including an average of 3 nights per destination

Route 2

Takes 13 days to complete, including an average of 3 nights per destination


Subscribers per country

Below are the numbers of subscribers in each country. In (brackets) are the number of subscribers to the language.
Germany - 65 (83)
Spain - 39 (336)
United Kingdom - 197
France - 46 (89)
Italy - 61 (95)
Turin looks like a good central location
Turkey (105)
Romania - 39
Netherlands - 68 (78)
Belgium - 30
Switzerland - 18
Denmark - 15

If you are a subscriber in one of the proposed countries and desire to have a workshop in your country, the first step would be to create a forum topic titled like, "Godwriting Workshop - Italy 2009" where we will collaborate on making it happen. If the topic already exists, share your ideas as comments below the thread.

Wow, Heaven Admin, I love

Wow, Heaven Admin, I love how you always think big, and I love your organizing power!

We can contact Panos Aximakaros, the publisher in Greece, and Monica Visan in Romania to see what they would like to do. There are other friends among Heavenreaders we can contact as well.

Stefan had suggested helping in Germany, and he knows of a facility etc.

God bless you, Senor.

Dear friends I am just on a

Dear friends

I am just on a trip in Mexico for 3 weeks. Back in Germany I will get in contact to see how and when we can organize workshop in Germany.
Blessings
Stefan

Dear Stefan, Thank you for

Dear Stefan,

Thank you for letting us know. Mexico must be amazing!

Oceans of Love

Proposed Itinerary for European Godwriting Tour

Itinerary in brief

Istanbul, Turkey
Saturday - 5 September
Sunday - 6 September

Bucharest, Romania
Tuesday - 8 September
Wednesday - 9 September

Athens, Greece or Salzburg, Germany
Saturday - 12 September
Sunday - 13 September

Turin, Italy
Saturday - 19 September
Sunday - 20 September

London, United Kingdom (This event depends on a sponsor coming forward)
Saturday - 26 September
Sunday - 27 September

Thank you so much for taking

Thank you so much for taking care of all this planning, Senor. And for your share in leading the workshops as well. The people who come to workshops in Europe are really in for a treat!

UK suggestions

Hello beloveds,
I am sorry i'll be in France and Italy during September, rather than the UK.... It would be wonderful if you came. You might see if Alternatives.org.uk want to sponsor you - they run frequent workshops and have a huge email list... or, the Kairos Centre in London (Roehampton) - I'm not so sure how they work, but hear they're a lovely venue, and think they also do some publicity (check). Alternatively, with such a large UK subscriber base, how about mailing these folks specifically to see if anyone would like to sponsor it?
I met someone recently who organises workshops in London for several foreign spiritual teachers.. she is paid 30% of takings by them.. a beautiful woman... would you be interested in this kind of arrangement?
With love and blessings,
Sarita

Beloved Sarita

Perhaps you will come to the Godwriting(tm) workshop in Italy!

Thank you for your suggestions. We appreciate your thinking on our behalf so much. Certainly we would be interested!

It's deeply important to me that the people involved truly care for Heavenletters. Would your friend who organises workshops in London be interested in reading Heavenletters, coming to our web site etc., and finding out how she relates to them? Would you see what you can find, Sarita?

And, of course, we would be interested in finding out more about your beautiful friend and her service.

I'm not ruling out the other places, yet it feels very good to me to have more of a connection.

We would love to have a Godwriting workshop in London.

I will land in London from U.S. where Heaven Admin will meet me. And I will leave from London where Heaven Admin will see me off!

I've visited in London twice, and couldn't have loved it more!

God bless you, Sarita, and thank you, thank you for your kindness.

Adding One More Country to European Godwriting Tour

Leen has been an early translator of Dutch Heavenletters. Leen lives in Belgium, and now she is also sponsoring a Godwriting(tm) workshop in Belgium, near Bruges, this coming September.

I also understand that Belgium is quite near The Netherlands and France (Belgium has two national languages -- Dutch and French.) I also understand that Belgium is a convenient place for people in Germany and the U.K. to get to.

Dear Friends in Europe, this European tour is our chance to meet you and to share in your discovery of this marvelous adventure we call Godwriting. It is a surprise adventure because every inch of the terrain is new. It is always new. We don't know ahead of time what we will find. We do know for sure that God will speak to us on this tour of hearts, no matter what language we hear God in.

Magda is sponsoring the workshop in Turin, the spiritual capital of Italy. So far we know that Emilia, Paula, and Pitta are coming. We are so glad.

Lale and Jale are sponsoring the workshop in Istanbul, Turkey. We know that Engin and members of her family are coming, and we want you too!

Come discover your own Heaven in a Godwriting workshop in Belgium, Italy, or Turkey! Just come! Please put your name down here, and soon we'll start sending you advance materials!

Many thanks to Heaven Admin aka One, One Love, Oceans of Love, and Santhan for organizing and arranging this tour, participating in it, and smoothing the way for us all. I am so grateful to you.

Godwriting Workshop Itineray Proposal

Well thank you Gloria for telling us about the amount of subscribers ! I just know It can only grow and I mean worldwide, for is that not God's Intention ?
I would be delighted to meet you and Santhan in Belgium and Helma, my wife, would like to come too ! Is that okay with you ?
Could you send me a comprehensive informationstory of your planned tour in Europe ? If you can, I know at least two Dutch sites who post your Heavenletters and I am pretty sure they will gladly post the information about your tour in Europe !!

Such comprehensive set of information would also be a good key for interesting people we personally know, for your Workshops

I only hope that you don't expect me to come dressed in these old Dutch fashion clothes like the children on the picture in the email you sent us( smiley ) !!!
If it has to be traditional clothes, then it shall be traditional clothes from Friesland, the northern part of Holland where we live ( smiley again ) !!!

love,
Anco

Dear Gloria and everybody,

Dear Gloria and everybody,

I will not come dressed in Dutch fashion clothes and wooden shoes either. I think it would cause a big laugh! I'd rather come dressed in sarung and kabaya....haha!
But because I have little kids I think it won't work to come to Belgium, but who knows..The Roads of God are unpredictable. In Spirit I will be there for sure!

With love,
Yriah.

Love-In-Oneness

Heaven CD in other languages European Tour Translators

A lot of creative ideas have been flowing.

From Magda of lightworker.it who is sponsoring the Godwriting workshop in Turin, Italy comes the following:

I have finally received confirmation about the location, 26 and 27 September is ok, the room can contain maximum 60 people, do you think it will be enough?

Then I had an idea regarding the Heaven CD. I was thinking, what about translating the Heavenletters contained therein and then register it in Italian? I could read the text and then send you the file for making the CD, which we could offer during the workshop or sell online. What do you think?

Then later Magda thought a shorter CD of 7 Heavenletters plus Bernie's Introduction, God's Introduction.

Are other sponsors also interested? Do we want a CD in Dutch, French, and Turkish as well to have at the workshops?

Please let us know of your interest. Please post your response here, will you kindly? It's more immediate when you post here -- everyone is the first to hear -- and it saves me work. [Magda lives in the country where hi-speed connection is not available, so she is excused from posting!]

I also had an another idea that we might want to put into action quickly. Presently, Heaven News is in English only. I think Heaven News serves to bring us together. I imagine that, without access to Heaven News, subscribers in other countries might feel isolated. In every issue of Heaven News we seem to have a new country coming in, and none of the non-English speaking Heavensubscribers know about any of our wonderful news.

Emilia, I wanted to ask you if this is something you could easily take on in Italian? Please be easy with this and do not feel pressured. It's just that I thought of you. I know you are so skilled.

What do all translators feel about this? If you too feel this is valuable, is this something you can take on or find someone who can?

Magda has something else up her sleeve about the Italian CD, and I am eager to know what that is!

All ideas welcome!

Thank you!

is this itinerary

is this itinerary correct?
have i missed some thing?

sorry, been busy with new job.
plz fill me in, this mailing on the forum is so unstructured, takes much time to read.

May God bless you, always,
leen

Beloved Leen, This is the

Beloved Leen,

This is the itinerary:

12 & 13 - Brugge, Belgium hosed by Leen who runs Heart of the Rainbow (http://www.heartoftherainbow.be )

19 & 20 - Istanbul, Turkey hosted by Lale and Jale from Sifa Cemberi (http://www.sifacemberi.com)

26 & 27 - Turin, Italy hosted by Magda who runs Lightworkers Italia (www.lightworkers.it)

Yes, you are right, there is a lot of material here. I even posted something just now that I pretty much had before!

Let's start a new page. Maybe we'll call it the Updates on European Workshops. I'll try to do that now, Leen.

Also, be sure to keep with Heaven News. And please let us know what works for you, dear one.

Workshop in Italy

Dear Gloria,

I have finally received confirmation about the location, 26 and 27 September is ok, the room can contain maximum 60 people, do you think it will be enough?

Regarding the film about Akiane, it's a wonderful idea, I have problems in dowloading that, do you think you could send it to me through normal poste so that I can see what to do about the translation? However, being short of time, maybe Paula could help me in that.

Then I had another idea, regarding your CD. I was thinking, what about translating the Heavenletters contained therein and then register it in Italian? I could read the text and then send you the file for making the CD, which we could offer during the workshop or sell online. What do you think? In case you like the idea, I would need the full text of the CD for the translation.

Well, I think that's all for the time being, I am looking foward to receiving the advertising material for this great event, for which there are already some enquiries.

Lots of Love,

Magda

Beloved Magda, This is so

Beloved Magda,

This is so wonderful!

Not only do you sponsor a workshop, you put your whole heart into it! And you have creative ideas! And you are posting on this forum! Welcome!

It would be lovely to have you record the Heaven CD in Italian. That is generous of you, Magda. I would love to listen to you read Heavenletters in Italian. Why haven't we thought of this before!

It's very likely that Paula has already translated the Heavenletters that are on the CD.

We'll figure out all the mechanics of this.

Heaven Admin, what are your suggestions?

And anybody else?

With love and blessings,

Gloria

Thank you, Gloria, for the

Thank you, Gloria, for the list of the Heavenletters on the CD. Now, it appears that I haven't translated any one of them. So, I don't know whether Magda wants to do the translation herself, otherwise I can do them or we can do part of them each. (And, no, I haven't got the CD.)

As for the video, it's best if Berit can do it. I or Magda can check the translation.

I was just wondering about the Heavenletters book, which has already been translated, as you know. I don't know whether there's any possibility to have it published before the workshop. I think there are self-publishing possibilities on internet, but I've got no idea how much they would cost.

I'm a little busy in this moment with the translation of a book and a website, but I'm willing to give you all the help you need.

Love,
paula
*******

I do not reproach. I love. (HEAVEN #1236)

Paula, thank you so much.

Paula, thank you so much. Yes, Berit kindly offered to translate the video.

I must have kept a copy of the exact wording of the CD, but I haven't found it. But what's the good of keeping it if I can't find it!!!!

But wait before you do anything!

Several thoughts occur to me. I'm just thinking out loud right now.

A CD in Italian would be great because it could bring more people to the Godwriting workshop in Turn. It's also nice to have something for people to look at and perhaps buy at the workshop. And there are people who prefer to listen rather than read. And I would love to hear Magda's voice reading Heavenletters out loud!

In case it's too expensive or cumbersome to make professional CD's, shrink-wrap, design, print leaflet, and transport boxes of CD's, possibly we could consider just running them off on someone's computer in Italy and then perhaps simply give them as gifts before and during the workshop. Or what do you think of? (Does this idea sound too amateurish?)

Now I think of all the Heavenletters you have translated, Paula, and that makes me ask: Does an Italian CD have to be exactly the same as the English one?!!! Perhaps we could make an Italian CD from Heavenletters you already have translated. Perhaps together we could choose which Heavenletters to read. We would want favorite Heavenletters and yet cover a range of topics. It's also possible we could do a shorter demo CD.

I also did quite a few readings where I read Heavenletters out loud to various live audiences. I found that the attention span of listening to a Heavenletter is shorter than the attention span of reading a Heavenletter. This was true even for devoted Heavenreaders. So we may want to abbreviate some of the Heavenletters.

Perhaps we could choose Heavenletters for the CD from the Heaven book. Paula, you've already translated that.

What do we do for music quietly between each Heavenletter? There is much to consider.
What are your thoughts and ideas? Are the sponsors and translators from other countries interested in having CD's? For this, I think we would want to make all the the CD's have the same content.

Another possibility would be to have a recording on the website. I also know that Heaven Admin's time is going to be even more limited. He's returning to Argentina from South Africa soon, and he's working on many things for European Workshop Tour and also the Oneness Journey. We have to be careful that we don't pile more work on him. But, Senor, we have to have all your input!

Leen, Anco, Yriah, Lale, Jale, Engin, what do you feel?

Magda, you certainly started something great and let's see where we can go with this.

With love and blessings,

Gloria

a lot of enthousiasm and ideas

There is a lot of enthousiasm and ideas and I thinkfeel or feelthink that is just great !

I also feelthink spontaneously that 2 things might be considered here

One : have this European tour, but don't make it too big trying to do all kind of things at once, there is only that much time for each visit tot each country. But please follow your own thinkfeelings in this, for who am I ?

Two : During the European Tour when we meet and if there is time for this and if not, then After the European tour has been : let us start the exchange of ideas about possibilities for some kind of organisational form in each country or for a few countries together with Heavenlettersubscribers and Heavenlettervolunteers, who start spreading Heavenletters and Heavenletter workshops, not making them but spreading them. I am referrring here to your remark somewhere about the 6000 subscribers, and that God said there will be millions of Heavenletterreaders one day. And I'm also referring to another discussion you have about certificates for Godwriting.
Now I think if God says that there will be millions of Heavenletterreaders, it will happen and maybe we can help by organising this !
I have no clear answers yet but I do believe it is at least time to consider these things.

Hey, if I sound like " a businessman here seeing growthmarkets that need to de developed ", perhaps you are right, but all for a good
cause and in Oneness

anco

Beloved Anco, Anco, you have

Beloved Anco,

Anco, you have a bigger vision than I! Your vision is long-range. I can see how your brain waves are lining up! I hadn't thought as far as you. I think this is wonderful!

"Let us start the exchange of ideas about possibilities for some kind of organisational form in each country or for a few countries together with Heavenlettersubscribers and Heavenlettervolunteers, who start spreading Heavenletters and Heavenletter workshops, not making them but spreading them. I am referring here to your remark somewhere about the 6000 subscribers, and that God said there will be millions of Heavenletterreaders one day. Now I think if God says that there will be millions of Heavenletterreaders, it will happen and maybe we can help by organising this."

Anco, I have heard that we are God's arms and legs! I think He counts on us!

With blessings and love,

Gloria

just a piece of the puzzle we put together

Thank you Gloria, but you give me to much honour here, I'm just a piece of the puzzle we all are helping to put together !

There is a lot of people reading Heavenletters and I am sure they all have talents, so let's see what the other puzzlepieces
come up with.
And last but not least, the person who inspires people to bring in their ideas and compliments them for that, well her vision is more than big enough !

God's arms and legs, nicely spoken !

loving you and blessing you,

anco

dear All in One

Most dear All in One!

Want to thank for the ideas, waht to tell that I also want to be a piece of puzzle and spread HeavenLetters in Russian.
I thought about the idea of CD on Russian.....
God will guide.

Love, peace, joy, happiness and prosperity.

Dream about days when the workshop can be done in Moldova, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus.
Elizabeth with blessings and love from Moldova

Beloved Elizabeth

Will you come over the following page now?

http://www.heavenletters.org/updates-on-european-godwritingtm-workshop-t...

I will answer here, but I will also move our posts over to the link above because this page is getting so long. Sorry for the mix-up.

Elizabeth, after Heaven Admin drops me off at the London airport at the end of our European tour, I believe he is going to be in Romania on business. I understand that Moldova cuts right through the center of Romania.

How many people in Moldova would we have to come to a workshop? Of necessity, we need the workshops to cover our expenses. How we wish we could just go and go wherever our hearts would lead us. The people who are most likely to come are those who already read Heavenletters.

Heaven Admin is traveling from South Africa to Argentina in the next few days. When he gets settled back in Argentina, let's see what he can figure out.

Beloved, you may be more than a piece of the puzzle! It seems to be God and you when it comes to the Russian language countries right now!

With love and blessings,

Gloria